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Was John McCain Brainwashed While Imprisoned In North Vietnam? (he called U.S. vets "criminals")
examiner.com ^ | 2010-01-31 | Dave Gibson

Posted on 01/31/2010 9:11:21 PM PST by rabscuttle385

It is nothing short of incredible that a combat veteran who has claimed to be a conservative Senator has led the fight to reward with amnesty, the millions of Mexican and Central American nationals who have entered this nation illegally. While the betrayal of the American people on behalf of foreign invaders by Sen. John McCain may be puzzling to most, the former POW actually has somewhat of a history of betraying his fellow citizens in favor of a foreign enemy.

The question of McCain's true motives should be examined.

On October 26, 1967, U.S. Navy Lt. John McCain was shot down over North Vietnam by a Soviet-made surface-to-air missile. As a result of ejecting from his plane, McCain suffered two broken arms and a broken leg. He was immediately captured by an angry mob and turned over to NVA soldiers, who broke his shoulder with a rifle butt and stabbed his foot with a bayonet. He was then taken to the infamous 'Hanoi Hilton.'

Once in a cell, he was beaten and interrogated daily. Still being refused medical treatment and in severe pain, McCain agreed to talk in exchange for medical treatment. He was then taken to a nearby hospital. McCain described the events in his 1999 book Faith of My Fathers, in which he said: "Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate any medical treatment if I did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

The North Vietnamese Army discovered that Lt. McCain was the son of Adm. John McCain Jr., commander of the Pacific Fleet, and his grandfather was Adm. John McCain Sr. who commanded aircraft carriers under Adm. Bill Halsey in the Pacific during World War II. Because of his family's powerful military heritage, the NVA believed that Lt. McCain would one day hold a prominent position in the U.S. government. He then became the target of incredible torture and attempts at re-education, some sessions were reportedly conducted by Soviet officers.

McCain has said that he was regularly visited by senior communist Vietnamese officials. One visitor was famous NVA Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap.

Eventually, McCain signed a letter claiming to be a war criminal and apologizing for the U.S. involvement in Vietnam. He also did many radio and television interviews, some with foreign correspondents which is a severe violation of the military code of conduct.

Despite John McCain's years of painful torture at the hands of the NVA, he has been Hanoi's strongest advocate in the U.S. Senate. For years, he pushed for the normalization of relations with communist Vietnam, even though that country has never fully cooperated on the issue of American POW's.

In 1992, John McCain was serving on the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. Vietnamese officials began to complain that American POW/MIA activists (mostly family members of the missing men) were causing too many problems and posed a threat to lifting the U.S. trade embargo on Vietnam. Incredibly, Senator and former POW McCain then went on a campaign against the POW/MIA activists and accused them of fraud. McCain once said of the families: "The people who have done these things are not zealots in a good cause. They are criminals and some of the most craven, most cynical, and most despicable human beings to ever run a scam."

Sen. McCain demanded and received a U.S. Justice Department investigation of the two major POW/MIA activist groups. Of course, no fraud, as McCain alleged, was ever found. The families were left angry and mystified as to why McCain had betrayed them. McCain succeeded and the trade embargo against communist Vietnam was lifted, and there has never been a full accounting of North Vietnamese atrocities against American POWs.

In 1992, NVA Col. Bui Tin, who interrogated McCain in the Hanoi Hilton, testified before the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. He told the Senators (including McCain) that Soviet officers regularly interrogated and tortured American POW's. During a break in the proceedings, Sen. McCain and Col. Tin enjoyed a hug and exchanged the kind of longing looks that a man would usually share with his long-lost father, or perhaps in McCain's case...His comrade?

Just as John McCain has collaborated with the Vietnamese enemy, he has collaborated with the leaders of the Mexican Reconquista movement for some time. Among other outrages, he has spoken at the annual conference of the National Council of La Raza for the last several years.

As one of the keynote speakers at the 2004 conference, he told the zealous crowd: "It is in our national interest to bring the 8 to 12 million undocumented immigrants out of the shadows and allow them an opportunity to become citizens of this great nation."

After the massive illegal alien protests in 2006, McCain made the following statement: "If such demonstrations continue, I think we will have a bill for the President to sign soon. The more debate, the more demonstrations, the more likely we will prevail."

Under Sen. McCain's immigration bill, even members of Mexican drug gangs would have received amnesty by simply signing a statement in which they renounce their gang affiliation. The so-called 'background checks' that illegal aliens would have been given were only of the 24-hour variety, which reveal very little, if anything and would then be given a six-month worker card. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents would have traveled around the country handing-out amnesty applications to suspected illegal aliens, and all immigration enforcement would have ended.

McCain's plan would spell the end of United States sovereignty. So why would the son and grandson of fiercely proud American warriors, and he himself a combat veteran who suffered tremendous torture at the hands of the criminal North Vietnamese so readily come to the aid of that enemy and attack the families of the men with whom he served? Why would this same man so incredibly betray his own country by granting amnesty to those who sneak into this country´s back door, when so many are waiting to enter America through the front door?

The answers to the aforementioned questions lie deep with Sen. McCain's psyche, which should now be subject to examination. I am not suggesting that McCain set out to betray his country when he began his career at the U.S. Naval Academy in 1954, nor as he flew 23 missions over North Vietnam. However, it would appear that under extreme torture and indoctrination at the hands of his communist captors, he may have been turned...Turned against his own country and sent back to dismantle that country. It is a possibility that needs to be investigated.

When someone with the background of Sen. John McCain is ready to sell-out his fellow POW's and turn the United States into a Third World nation...No other explanation could truly suffice.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: brainwashing; communists; juanmccain; manchurianmccain; mccain; mccain4communism; mccain4fascism; mccain4socialism; mccainantiamerica; mccaintruthfile; mcdemocrat; mclame; mcrino; mctraitor; rino; rinos4obama; traitor; traitormccain; vietnam
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To: investigateworld

McCain did not crash two planes as a student.

Also, the original article states that McCain was a Lt. when he was shot down. He was a LCdr.


61 posted on 01/31/2010 11:50:30 PM PST by Former War Criminal (My senior Senator (who served in Vietnam) said so.)
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To: GinaLolaB

Please identify the “French” company.

And where did you get the 18% unemployment statistic?


62 posted on 01/31/2010 11:52:11 PM PST by Former War Criminal (My senior Senator (who served in Vietnam) said so.)
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To: SoCalPol
Your Pee Wee Herman-like responses aren't very impressive. They certainly don't constitute a rebuttal of any of the information on John McCain presented here. But if it makes you feel better to throw a twelve year old's hissy fit go right ahead.

If you really think there are "Paul-Bots" here direct your adolescent jibes at them instead of me.

63 posted on 01/31/2010 11:52:43 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: TigersEye

BTW, you are on the thread of a PaulBot


64 posted on 01/31/2010 11:55:13 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

Ah, I see. That explains away all the information that’s been posted. /s


65 posted on 01/31/2010 11:58:05 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Good to see you got your Two Minutes of Hate in today. ..

Where is the hate? I read the post, it is common knowledge, is all factual, yet you come by like a toy poodle and pee on the thread, may I add, with absolutley no clue as to what was written. Please read the article before you go into your automatic knee-jerk pursed lip 'I worship McCain' stance. The jerk doesn't even wash his hands after he craps.

66 posted on 01/31/2010 11:58:10 PM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: oldenuff2no
You may not agree with his politics but he has earned the respect of this country.

Crap. You realize how little reason this your statement exibits? Just because it feels good to you does not make it right. Read a little, be an adult, use the brain God gave you.

67 posted on 02/01/2010 12:02:47 AM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: ReneeLynn
I may not agree with his politics, but damned if I’ll second guess him on what he did while a POW. No way.

I suggest that if can not sit in judgment of a fellow man, you are not much of a man. Just my thought, not accusing you of this, but think about it.

68 posted on 02/01/2010 12:05:39 AM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: rabscuttle385

69 posted on 02/01/2010 12:08:25 AM PST by wardaddy (Good Yankees in Massachusetts, I salute you all from bended knee in appreciation)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Too bad you love Obama and the Leftists who are really destroying this country. No, you only hate John McCain...

You know what that is? Because one is on the other side and we know it, the other is on our side but he is selling us out. Of course you detest a member of your family who betrays you more than the local bookie who runs off with your winnings. Doesn't that make sense to you?

70 posted on 02/01/2010 12:08:47 AM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: SandwicheGuy

First of all, I’m not a man. Secondly, ‘judge not lest ye be judged’. I cannot say what I’d do if I were in his shoes, and neither can you.


71 posted on 02/01/2010 12:09:38 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: onyx
What a load of bull crap, vicious nonsense.

Let's keep it simple, shall we? By their deeds you shall know them.

72 posted on 02/01/2010 12:11:02 AM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: TigersEye

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2441712/posts

The source of this thread is a PaulBot and 9/11 Truther.
also wrote an article bashing Mark Levin and his book “Liberty and Tyranny”


73 posted on 02/01/2010 12:11:23 AM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: ReneeLynn
What a load of bull crap, vicious nonsense.

Oh, sorry, end of discussion.

74 posted on 02/01/2010 12:20:46 AM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: SoCalPol

What he wrote about two other subjects has no bearing on this one. Plenty of other sources, literally dozens, have been added to the thread. You still haven’t provided anything of substance to rebut anything here.


75 posted on 02/01/2010 12:24:08 AM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Someone needs to post this on Facebook to Palin and ask that she read and respond to it. And, to let her know that we feel it in our (collective) best interest that she NOT campaign for him. I don’t have access, as I do not have internet at home. But, I read that she does a lot of postings on Facebook, and has a lot of followers there.


76 posted on 02/01/2010 12:25:27 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: rabscuttle385

Are you contending there

WAS

SOMETHING

TO WASH???!


77 posted on 02/01/2010 12:27:52 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: onyx

John McCain, Prisoner of War: A First-Person Account
published in U.S. News in May 1973

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2008/01/28/john-mccain-prisoner-of-war-a-first-person-account.html

I think it was on the fourth day that two guards came in, instead of one. One of them pulled back the blanket to show the other guard my injury. I looked at my knee. It was about the size, shape and color of a football. I remembered that when I was a flying instructor a fellow had ejected from his plane and broken his thigh. He had gone into shock, the blood had pooled in his leg, and he died, which came as quite a surprise to us—a man dying of a broken leg. Then I realized that a very similar thing was happening to me.

When I saw it, I said to the guard, “O.K., get the officer.” An officer came in after a few minutes. It was the man that we came to know very well as “The Bug.” He was a psychotic torturer, one of the worst fiends that we had to deal with. I said, “O.K., I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.” He left and came back with a doctor, a guy that we called “Zorba,” who was completely incompetent. He squatted down, took my pulse. He did not speak English, but shook his head and jabbered to “The Bug.” I asked, “Are you going to take me to the hospital?” “The Bug” replied, “It’s too late.” I said, “If you take me to the hospital, I’ll get well.”

“Zorba” took my pulse again, and repeated, “It’s too late.” They got up and left, and I lapsed into unconsciousness.

Sometime later, “The Bug” came rushing into the room, shouting, “Your father is a big admiral; now we take you to the hospital.”


78 posted on 02/01/2010 12:30:38 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: oldenuff2no
When you have walked in his shoes you will have earned the right to judge him...

Bullshxt!

I have a right to judge him because his actions as a politician effect my life and the lives of my children. He should be judged every day, just like the rest of the political class.

This is the same argument that the left uses when attempting to exempt criticism of president zero except they insert race where you have military service.

I didn't give up my right to free speech, or thought, just because McCain endured horrific events during his imprisonment.

79 posted on 02/01/2010 12:31:33 AM PST by Texas Jack
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To: TigersEye

My response is in detail on other threads just like this one

The same cut and paste threads over and over dozens of times
for the past few yrs. deserve disdain.

Some on FR look at the world through a straw.
I see the big picture.

The constant Mac bashing is also used to bash Sarah Palin
by association.

No problem with Ron Paul and his Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan views or his 6 min. Youtube of bashing Israel.


80 posted on 02/01/2010 12:51:45 AM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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