Posted on 01/31/2010 9:11:21 PM PST by rabscuttle385
It is nothing short of incredible that a combat veteran who has claimed to be a conservative Senator has led the fight to reward with amnesty, the millions of Mexican and Central American nationals who have entered this nation illegally. While the betrayal of the American people on behalf of foreign invaders by Sen. John McCain may be puzzling to most, the former POW actually has somewhat of a history of betraying his fellow citizens in favor of a foreign enemy.
The question of McCain's true motives should be examined.
On October 26, 1967, U.S. Navy Lt. John McCain was shot down over North Vietnam by a Soviet-made surface-to-air missile. As a result of ejecting from his plane, McCain suffered two broken arms and a broken leg. He was immediately captured by an angry mob and turned over to NVA soldiers, who broke his shoulder with a rifle butt and stabbed his foot with a bayonet. He was then taken to the infamous 'Hanoi Hilton.'
Once in a cell, he was beaten and interrogated daily. Still being refused medical treatment and in severe pain, McCain agreed to talk in exchange for medical treatment. He was then taken to a nearby hospital. McCain described the events in his 1999 book Faith of My Fathers, in which he said: "Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate any medical treatment if I did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."
The North Vietnamese Army discovered that Lt. McCain was the son of Adm. John McCain Jr., commander of the Pacific Fleet, and his grandfather was Adm. John McCain Sr. who commanded aircraft carriers under Adm. Bill Halsey in the Pacific during World War II. Because of his family's powerful military heritage, the NVA believed that Lt. McCain would one day hold a prominent position in the U.S. government. He then became the target of incredible torture and attempts at re-education, some sessions were reportedly conducted by Soviet officers.
McCain has said that he was regularly visited by senior communist Vietnamese officials. One visitor was famous NVA Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap.
Eventually, McCain signed a letter claiming to be a war criminal and apologizing for the U.S. involvement in Vietnam. He also did many radio and television interviews, some with foreign correspondents which is a severe violation of the military code of conduct.
Despite John McCain's years of painful torture at the hands of the NVA, he has been Hanoi's strongest advocate in the U.S. Senate. For years, he pushed for the normalization of relations with communist Vietnam, even though that country has never fully cooperated on the issue of American POW's.
In 1992, John McCain was serving on the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. Vietnamese officials began to complain that American POW/MIA activists (mostly family members of the missing men) were causing too many problems and posed a threat to lifting the U.S. trade embargo on Vietnam. Incredibly, Senator and former POW McCain then went on a campaign against the POW/MIA activists and accused them of fraud. McCain once said of the families: "The people who have done these things are not zealots in a good cause. They are criminals and some of the most craven, most cynical, and most despicable human beings to ever run a scam."
Sen. McCain demanded and received a U.S. Justice Department investigation of the two major POW/MIA activist groups. Of course, no fraud, as McCain alleged, was ever found. The families were left angry and mystified as to why McCain had betrayed them. McCain succeeded and the trade embargo against communist Vietnam was lifted, and there has never been a full accounting of North Vietnamese atrocities against American POWs.
In 1992, NVA Col. Bui Tin, who interrogated McCain in the Hanoi Hilton, testified before the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. He told the Senators (including McCain) that Soviet officers regularly interrogated and tortured American POW's. During a break in the proceedings, Sen. McCain and Col. Tin enjoyed a hug and exchanged the kind of longing looks that a man would usually share with his long-lost father, or perhaps in McCain's case...His comrade?
Just as John McCain has collaborated with the Vietnamese enemy, he has collaborated with the leaders of the Mexican Reconquista movement for some time. Among other outrages, he has spoken at the annual conference of the National Council of La Raza for the last several years.
As one of the keynote speakers at the 2004 conference, he told the zealous crowd: "It is in our national interest to bring the 8 to 12 million undocumented immigrants out of the shadows and allow them an opportunity to become citizens of this great nation."
After the massive illegal alien protests in 2006, McCain made the following statement: "If such demonstrations continue, I think we will have a bill for the President to sign soon. The more debate, the more demonstrations, the more likely we will prevail."
Under Sen. McCain's immigration bill, even members of Mexican drug gangs would have received amnesty by simply signing a statement in which they renounce their gang affiliation. The so-called 'background checks' that illegal aliens would have been given were only of the 24-hour variety, which reveal very little, if anything and would then be given a six-month worker card. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents would have traveled around the country handing-out amnesty applications to suspected illegal aliens, and all immigration enforcement would have ended.
McCain's plan would spell the end of United States sovereignty. So why would the son and grandson of fiercely proud American warriors, and he himself a combat veteran who suffered tremendous torture at the hands of the criminal North Vietnamese so readily come to the aid of that enemy and attack the families of the men with whom he served? Why would this same man so incredibly betray his own country by granting amnesty to those who sneak into this country´s back door, when so many are waiting to enter America through the front door?
The answers to the aforementioned questions lie deep with Sen. McCain's psyche, which should now be subject to examination. I am not suggesting that McCain set out to betray his country when he began his career at the U.S. Naval Academy in 1954, nor as he flew 23 missions over North Vietnam. However, it would appear that under extreme torture and indoctrination at the hands of his communist captors, he may have been turned...Turned against his own country and sent back to dismantle that country. It is a possibility that needs to be investigated.
When someone with the background of Sen. John McCain is ready to sell-out his fellow POW's and turn the United States into a Third World nation...No other explanation could truly suffice.
Whatever he endured as a POW, there is no excuse—NONE—for the way he treated the families of the POW/MIAs in 1992 along with John F’ing Kerry, shutting down any investigation into the missing American POWs.
When Hanoi emptied the prison camps in the spring of 1973, our intellignece expected to receive 1200 men known to be POWs. They were shocked when only 600 were returned to the US.
The others were kept as insurance, in order to get payments of up to $ 4 billion in reparations promised by Kissinger and Nixon to end the war. When Congress would not approve payments to North Vietnam, the men were kept.
Over the next 20 years, over 14,000 sightings of POWs took place. Secret call signs each pilot is given to identify themselves were spotted from the air etched in the round, or made with branches.
McCain is a no good lying SOB.
I won’t judge him for his actions as a POW, but I’ll certainly judge him for what happened since.
Kerry and McCain worked hand in glove on squashing the POW/MIA rumors so North Vietnam could have normalized relations with the US.
How could a POW do this to other POW/MIA families?
And what about those men, dying one by one, in the vain hope their country did not forget about them. And if those 600 missing men died as prisoners, where is the accounting for them by Vietnam. Doesn’t anyone remember how American remains would be found every so often like clockwork in the 1980s, and then “aid” of some kind would be given to Vietnam?
McCain endured hardship no doubt. But there is something fundamentally wrong with that chameleon of a man, who has been on the wrong side of so many issues, that his very love of America needs to be questioned. A man who hates conservatives, except when he needs them to be reelected, like now.
His crowning acheievment has been to play the foil to allow the Communist Usurper to be elected President in 2008. A true patriot would have fought like hell to keep Obama out of the White House. Even two gifts in Palin and Joe the Plumber were squandered by McCain. Palin, bless her heart, believed the McCain myth and fought for America and him.
McCain said we had nothing to fear from an Obama Presidency, He lost the election that day. I swallowede hard to vote for the SOB, only because Palin was on the ticket, and she would be the President if McCain died in office.
Call us McCain haters, whatever. We are where we are today because of him. He needs to be retired to Arizona and just sell beer, with fruit loop women at his side.
Keating Five, POW/MIA family smackdown,McCain-Feingold, Amnesty 2007,McCain-Kennedy, 2000 Bush-Bashing, 2004 almost John Kerry’s running mate, his sqaundering of the 2008 election, his hatred of conservatives, his screwing up of the bailout issue in the fall of 2008,—he is all over the map, except where a patriot should be.
The hell with him and the saguaro he rode in on.
I hope JD Hayworth kicks his @ss right back to Phoenix.
Dig all you want. Post all you want.
McCain was right.
Bob Smith was taken for a ride.
Was posted here a few days ago that
McCain is pro abortion. A lie, he is NOT pro-abortion.
Yep, Rabscuttle385 builds his self-esteem with his daily Two Minutes of Hate about John McCain. Never anyone else, just McCain. And in posts like this is outright lies. But that’s OK, it’s how he validates himself.
I was worried, it was getting late in the day and he hadn’t made his post. Good to know he got his daily slam in!
McCain, for whatever reason or reasons, is unstable
Bump
Right, he’s always been pro-life. He’s never wavered.
McCain will have to correct that himself.
Ooh. “HATE”! A liberal buzz-word. I guess that shuts down all discussion of this horrible politically-incorrect subject....if this were DU.
Yep, it’s pretty common for ratscab and his ilk to lie to build their own sense of self-importance up...
Take a look at what ratscab posts every day, and in this case pure lies and distortions. If it’s not hate, I don’t know what is... Maybe, rather than hate, ratscab has a huge mancrush on McCain and this is his way of dealing with it?
Either way, it’s pretty unhealthy and decidedly NOT conservative.
It wasn’t just Bob Smith.
Admiral Stockdale himself supported and backed McCain 100 percent.
This trashing of him comes only from his haters and from people who have done nothing themselves except try to find fault with others.
Make no mistake, I think it’s past time to retire McCain, but this type of vicious crap speaks volumes to me about both the author and the poster.
Some things remove all questions.
John McCain funded by Soros since 2001
McCain/Soros by Rabbi Areyh Spero
McCain-Soros Toppled GOP Candidates Nov. 21, 2006
Soros' "Reform" (an article about Soros‘ instrumental hand in McCain/Feingold)
John McCain: George Soros' Useful Idiot?
Through The Weeds; John McCain, George Soros and the Reform Institute
McCain’s Reform Institute donor list:
Reform Institute greatfully acknowleges Sen. McCain as past Chairman:
Why anyone would try to make a contrast between McCain and 0bummer is beyond understanding. They're both Progressives.
I know the Democrats to be doing their freaking best to destroy this nation. Juan McCain is an enabler to that end.
Doom on him!!!!
More YOUTUBE - McCain On Abortion (UH OH! YouTube Has a Video of Him in 1999)
McCain and Stem Cell Research Round-up
Does McCain Oppose Free Speech? As early as 1997, the National Right to Life Committee Thought So
Keyes Raps McCain as 'Not Pro-Life'
Lists are always interesting, because who in their right mind has wanted to make a list of McCain’s positives or a list of notable people in his past who have come to his defense in all of the matters?
Most assuredly not me, but when it comes to the attempts to discredit his POW years or his military service and subsequent hearings on the POW/MIA issues, there are a lot of his fellow POW’s and his commanders who fully agreed with him.
In later years, some of the MIA’s (through DNA) were identified and at least one of them were from one of families represented at the hearings. He was a downed pilot from San Diego. His sister was a long suffering hold out and she was present at the hearing.
Did you misread my post?
I am not for his re-election.
I am supporting JD Hayworth.
Dave Gibson who wrote this crap,
After completing two years at Tidewater Community College, Dave Gibson became a Virginia Beach Deputy Sheriff. He has since left the department and now owns a small business in the city of Chesapeake, Virginia. He has worked at the Virginia Zoo, the Norfolk SPCA, and currently works for the K-9 New Life Center based in Virginia Beach.
This clown’s articles are typical keyboard commando tripe.
Good thing he never had the courage to join the military as he would have cost tax payers the expense of a Section 8 discharge
Sorry if I wasn't clear.
I have no respect for McCain, only sympathy/contempt/disrespect/ and anger for his efforts to destroy my Nation.
I saw wit me own MKI eyeballs, the disaster of the last Amnesty.
No More!
Here is a good one.
The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides
It is a long article and well worth the read. Here is an excerpt.
Another bill gutted in 1996And then there is the Missing Service Personnel Act, which McCain succeeded in gutting in 1996. A year before, the act had been strengthened, with bipartisan support, to compel the Pentagon to deploy more resources with greater speed to locate and rescue missing men. The measure imposed strict reporting requirements.
McCain amended the heart out of the statute. For example, the 1995 version required a unit commander to report to his theater commander within two days that a person was missing and describe what rescue and recovery efforts were underway. The McCain amendments allowed 10 days to pass before a report had to be made.
In the 1995 act, the theater commander, after receiving the MIA report, would have 14 days to report to his Cabinet secretary in Washington. His report had to "certify" that all necessary actions were being taken and all appropriate assets were being used "to resolve the status of the missing person." This section was stricken from the act, replaced with language that made the Cabinet secretary, not the theater commander, the recipient of the report from the field. All the certification requirements also were stricken. 'Turn commanders into clerks' "This," said a McCain memo, "transfers the bureaucracy involved out of the field to Washington." He argued that the original legislation, if left intact, "would accomplish nothing but create new jobs for lawyers and turn military commanders into clerks."
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