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Was John McCain Brainwashed While Imprisoned In North Vietnam? (he called U.S. vets "criminals")
examiner.com ^ | 2010-01-31 | Dave Gibson

Posted on 01/31/2010 9:11:21 PM PST by rabscuttle385

It is nothing short of incredible that a combat veteran who has claimed to be a conservative Senator has led the fight to reward with amnesty, the millions of Mexican and Central American nationals who have entered this nation illegally. While the betrayal of the American people on behalf of foreign invaders by Sen. John McCain may be puzzling to most, the former POW actually has somewhat of a history of betraying his fellow citizens in favor of a foreign enemy.

The question of McCain's true motives should be examined.

On October 26, 1967, U.S. Navy Lt. John McCain was shot down over North Vietnam by a Soviet-made surface-to-air missile. As a result of ejecting from his plane, McCain suffered two broken arms and a broken leg. He was immediately captured by an angry mob and turned over to NVA soldiers, who broke his shoulder with a rifle butt and stabbed his foot with a bayonet. He was then taken to the infamous 'Hanoi Hilton.'

Once in a cell, he was beaten and interrogated daily. Still being refused medical treatment and in severe pain, McCain agreed to talk in exchange for medical treatment. He was then taken to a nearby hospital. McCain described the events in his 1999 book Faith of My Fathers, in which he said: "Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate any medical treatment if I did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

The North Vietnamese Army discovered that Lt. McCain was the son of Adm. John McCain Jr., commander of the Pacific Fleet, and his grandfather was Adm. John McCain Sr. who commanded aircraft carriers under Adm. Bill Halsey in the Pacific during World War II. Because of his family's powerful military heritage, the NVA believed that Lt. McCain would one day hold a prominent position in the U.S. government. He then became the target of incredible torture and attempts at re-education, some sessions were reportedly conducted by Soviet officers.

McCain has said that he was regularly visited by senior communist Vietnamese officials. One visitor was famous NVA Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap.

Eventually, McCain signed a letter claiming to be a war criminal and apologizing for the U.S. involvement in Vietnam. He also did many radio and television interviews, some with foreign correspondents which is a severe violation of the military code of conduct.

Despite John McCain's years of painful torture at the hands of the NVA, he has been Hanoi's strongest advocate in the U.S. Senate. For years, he pushed for the normalization of relations with communist Vietnam, even though that country has never fully cooperated on the issue of American POW's.

In 1992, John McCain was serving on the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. Vietnamese officials began to complain that American POW/MIA activists (mostly family members of the missing men) were causing too many problems and posed a threat to lifting the U.S. trade embargo on Vietnam. Incredibly, Senator and former POW McCain then went on a campaign against the POW/MIA activists and accused them of fraud. McCain once said of the families: "The people who have done these things are not zealots in a good cause. They are criminals and some of the most craven, most cynical, and most despicable human beings to ever run a scam."

Sen. McCain demanded and received a U.S. Justice Department investigation of the two major POW/MIA activist groups. Of course, no fraud, as McCain alleged, was ever found. The families were left angry and mystified as to why McCain had betrayed them. McCain succeeded and the trade embargo against communist Vietnam was lifted, and there has never been a full accounting of North Vietnamese atrocities against American POWs.

In 1992, NVA Col. Bui Tin, who interrogated McCain in the Hanoi Hilton, testified before the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. He told the Senators (including McCain) that Soviet officers regularly interrogated and tortured American POW's. During a break in the proceedings, Sen. McCain and Col. Tin enjoyed a hug and exchanged the kind of longing looks that a man would usually share with his long-lost father, or perhaps in McCain's case...His comrade?

Just as John McCain has collaborated with the Vietnamese enemy, he has collaborated with the leaders of the Mexican Reconquista movement for some time. Among other outrages, he has spoken at the annual conference of the National Council of La Raza for the last several years.

As one of the keynote speakers at the 2004 conference, he told the zealous crowd: "It is in our national interest to bring the 8 to 12 million undocumented immigrants out of the shadows and allow them an opportunity to become citizens of this great nation."

After the massive illegal alien protests in 2006, McCain made the following statement: "If such demonstrations continue, I think we will have a bill for the President to sign soon. The more debate, the more demonstrations, the more likely we will prevail."

Under Sen. McCain's immigration bill, even members of Mexican drug gangs would have received amnesty by simply signing a statement in which they renounce their gang affiliation. The so-called 'background checks' that illegal aliens would have been given were only of the 24-hour variety, which reveal very little, if anything and would then be given a six-month worker card. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents would have traveled around the country handing-out amnesty applications to suspected illegal aliens, and all immigration enforcement would have ended.

McCain's plan would spell the end of United States sovereignty. So why would the son and grandson of fiercely proud American warriors, and he himself a combat veteran who suffered tremendous torture at the hands of the criminal North Vietnamese so readily come to the aid of that enemy and attack the families of the men with whom he served? Why would this same man so incredibly betray his own country by granting amnesty to those who sneak into this country´s back door, when so many are waiting to enter America through the front door?

The answers to the aforementioned questions lie deep with Sen. McCain's psyche, which should now be subject to examination. I am not suggesting that McCain set out to betray his country when he began his career at the U.S. Naval Academy in 1954, nor as he flew 23 missions over North Vietnam. However, it would appear that under extreme torture and indoctrination at the hands of his communist captors, he may have been turned...Turned against his own country and sent back to dismantle that country. It is a possibility that needs to be investigated.

When someone with the background of Sen. John McCain is ready to sell-out his fellow POW's and turn the United States into a Third World nation...No other explanation could truly suffice.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: brainwashing; communists; juanmccain; manchurianmccain; mccain; mccain4communism; mccain4fascism; mccain4socialism; mccainantiamerica; mccaintruthfile; mcdemocrat; mclame; mcrino; mctraitor; rino; rinos4obama; traitor; traitormccain; vietnam
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To: verity

see post # 174 for your response.


181 posted on 02/02/2010 12:35:49 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: exit82
You cannot offer any legitimate proof that he is responsible for the death of any Vietnam era POW/MIA.

You have failed to address this which is the reason I characterize your replies non-responsive. If you want the "last word" to sustain your ego, so be it.

182 posted on 02/02/2010 1:14:45 PM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: verity
You cannot offer any legitimate proof that he is responsible for the death of any Vietnam era POW/MIA.---Verity

You have failed to address this which is the reason I characterize your replies non-responsive. If you want the "last word" to sustain your ego, so be it.

And that is YOUR straw man argument. I never said he was responsible for the death of any POW/MIA--you introduced that angle. I maintained that he was responsible after Vietnam for deliberately obsfucating anyone finding out what happened to the men we KNOW we left behind. The proof of McCain's complicitiy in that is undeniable.

As for your straw man argument, you cannot prove the converse.

183 posted on 02/02/2010 2:53:41 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: oldenuff2no

Your logic is saying that if someone can go out and accomplish acts of bravery in the service of their country, then that gives them a free ticket to come home and act like a complete coward and traitor for as long as they feel like it?

Wrong. That kind of free ticket is nonsense. McCain might have been a hero several decades ago, but he’s completely ruined it with his actions as a politician. He now fights against the very principles he once shed blood for.

McCain has not only debased himself and his own name, he’s corrupted the very idea of being a hero.

I don’t know if McCain was brainwashed by his captors in an attempt to mold him into a secret weapon to perpetrate tyranny and statism on America from within. But if he was, it would explain his political behavior perfectly.


184 posted on 02/04/2010 3:46:34 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Hey you noble leftists. If what you are doing is worth anything, it should be worth saying out loud.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Was John McCain Brainwashed While Imprisoned In North Vietnam? (he called U.S. vets "criminals")

Anything is possible and it might explain why he is always so willing to "play ball" with the enemy (Democrats), avoid confrontations and appease. His actions belie his rhetoric. The public's judgment of his political standing is clouded by the "hero" myth and deference to a war veteran.

185 posted on 02/04/2010 3:58:08 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; rabscuttle385
PSS there are very few things in life that I am absolutely sure of, but there are two things that I have no doubt(s) about.

The first is that McCain is and ustable, overbreaing, short temepred a$$hole. I have heard this from many people who have worked closely with him for years.

The second is that there were live POW’s left in VN and McCain is well aware of that and chose instead to work for VN “normalization” rather than press the the POW/MIA case.

I have ABSOLUTELY no doubt about POW’s being left. Why? I was there and I know what I saw and EXACTLY what I was ordered to do about it. After many years I found the person who briefed the Senate committee on POW’s I know what he said and what McCain’s reaction was. Let’s just say Johnny boy wanted nothing to do with it.

186 posted on 02/04/2010 4:25:55 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: reasonisfaith
I did not say that he gets a free ride forever, that came out of you. I said quite clearly that he has earned my respect for what he endured for years at the Hanoi Hilton. In reading your posts it is quite clear that this holds no significant value for you. It is obvious you have no respect for the POW's that lived through hell. No one asked them their political views before they were shot down. Is that something we need to start doing so you can know ahead of time if you can respect them or not? Over the years he has been regularly reelected to the senate by his constituents. They have judged him and found him worthy. Theirs are the only votes or opinions that really count in this matter.

I do agree with the first three words of your last paragraph. “I don't know” There are volumes that you don't know about what this man has been through. You bring up brainwashing as if you have some first hand experience with it. As you said, you don't know but I guess it still sounds good.

I don't like his politics and I have repeatedly stated that position, but I do respect the man. I guess in your mind no one deserves your respect unless they agree with your thoughts ideas all the time. Hitler had that same exact view on life. It is all about "My way or no way."

187 posted on 02/04/2010 3:05:47 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: oldenuff2no

You’re not listening.

Patriotic actions do not buy credit redeemable for future anti-patriotic behavior. In fact, they don’t even mitigate it.

That’s all.

(And if you question my respect for POWs, you’re a communist plant.)


188 posted on 02/04/2010 6:11:05 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Hey you noble leftists. If what you are doing is worth anything, it should be worth saying out loud.)
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To: oldenuff2no

Another way of saying it:

When yesterday’s heroes become today’s cowards, we call them cowards.

Especially when their cowardly behavior helps ruin their country.


189 posted on 02/04/2010 6:31:57 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Hey you noble leftists. If what you are doing is worth anything, it should be worth saying out loud.)
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To: Reagan79
A congressional medal of honor winner named Bud Day backs him.

You don't "win" the Congressional Medal of Honor.

I'm correcting you, because Freeper Chapita can't...

190 posted on 10/22/2017 9:49:20 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: rabscuttle385

bump


191 posted on 10/22/2017 9:53:38 PM PDT by angelsonmyside
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