Posted on 01/25/2010 6:37:44 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner
Now, do a History search on Duncan Hinter threads from 2007/2008 and see the exact same arguments presented.
Let Pence run for Senate against Bayh and look ahead to 2016 or 2020 — he’s young enough. He might also be reasonable VP material in 2012, but not likely — someone like Palin would probably want someone “older” and “more experienced” (ala Cheney for GWB), though she does like to buck “conventional wisdom”. Romney would potentially like Pence as a sop to conservatives, but would Pence go along?
Mike Pence can beat Obama.
Romney can’t.
By 2012, pretty much anyone except a true squish in the Romney/McCain/Graham mold could win the general election against Obama, the way he’s going.
The key is getting there.
If I had a vote and obviously I do not - Gov Palin.
Keep believing in your pipe dream.
It’s going to be Palin or Romney.
That’s the way politics works.
Romney 2012 = McCain 2008.
In other words, a waste of money.
Could you get a U.S. citizenship in 3 years IF you are passionate as I gauge you to be?
That is SUCH an excellent post! Totally agree with ya. Is there anyway to get her notes to Steele and the folks who advise Steele (who ARE they, anyway, anyone know?) and make it perfectly clear that Sarah has hit another nail on its head and driven into the heart of what needs to be done, and done QUICKLY.
Palin is our best hope to get a conservative in the WH.
Better to have someone who is both principled and adept with the media.
You may have noticed that she is getting better in those interviews if your being objective.
“Better to have someone who is both principled and adept with the media.”
...and that would be...?
She has gotten better.
She still needs less qualifiers and less commas in her statements.
And I have conveyed my #1 candidate already:
Mike Pence.
Good principled conservative but nobody outside of conservative message boards knows about him.
It’s going to be Palin or it’s going to be Romney.
That’s reality. I supported Duncan Hunter initially last election, but that was because there were no name recognition conservatives.
Palin has name recognition and is a player if she wants to get in. If not, Romney will win hands down.
Duncan Hunter was a good guy without the charisma and media savvy to rise to fame.
Mike Pence has the charisma, and he has the media savvy.
If he gets into the 2012 Presidential primaries, his speeches and his debate performances will catapult him into a high level of popularity and a high level of name recognition very, very quickly.
The “already pre-existing national name recognition before the primaries begin” argument that you’re making was made for McCain in 2008. People bought it. He got the nomination.
People always buy it.
That’s my point. It will play out again.
There are only 2 candidates with serious support and recognition...Palin and Romney.
Watch and learn.
If it played out that way again in the primaries, the general election would play out the same way again too.
That’s why someone like Mike Pence has to be promoted as the best nominee over someone like Romney.
Not a logical conclusion.
Yes it is.
“If it played out that way again in the primaries, the general election would play out the same way again too.”
The “If” is not a valid statement to prove your “thus” statement. That’s basic logic.
This is not an opinion situation. You are stating something to be true based on something that is not causally related to it.
Thus, your contention below it is not supported and invalid.
That’s clear and not up for debate.
It is apparently your opinion that there is no relationship between repeating the same 2008 primaries pattern in the 2012 primaries and correspondingly repeating the 2008 general election pattern in the 2012 general election.
However, that relationship does exist, and it exists as I have conveyed it.
Thus, your opinion is wrong, and my logic is flawless.
Give up, you might as well debate Spock.
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