Luntz makes a major miss with THIS bad gun poll, for sure.
To: Mobile Vulgus
Luntz is like a “climate scientist” - - he knows ahead of time the results he wants and he polls accordingly for supporting data.
To: Mobile Vulgus
Luntz continues to amaze. He will make wild generalizations, get Sean Hannity all excited, and then reverse himself, based on his "scientific" focus groups. I'll take Rasmussen any day, even when his conclusions are unsettling.
3 posted on
01/25/2010 11:40:45 AM PST by
RanGreHad
To: Mobile Vulgus
You know, I’ve never liked Luntz. I know he’s popular with some around here, but there’s always been something shady about his analysis.
Also, that “Words that Work” book was one of the worst books I’ve ever tried to read. Flat out horrible.
4 posted on
01/25/2010 11:40:54 AM PST by
End Times Sentinel
(In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
To: Mobile Vulgus
---it was front and center with the Milwaukee mayor and the local version of the Daily Worker yesterday, too-- --http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2436277/posts
5 posted on
01/25/2010 11:46:17 AM PST by
rellimpank
(--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
To: Mobile Vulgus
6 posted on
01/25/2010 11:56:22 AM PST by
smokingfrog
(You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... www.filipthishouse2010.com)
To: Mobile Vulgus
So long as liberals continue to release violent criminals back onto the street, there's really no point taking away guns from law abiding citizens. As far as I'm concerned, there's no point in it ever anyways of course but especially not in light of the high incidence of violent recidivism exhibited by violent felons who have been released onto the street. Case in point, the young Iraq war hero in San Bernardino County California that was recently murdered while installing cable in the home of a man who had previosuly been convicted of murder and rape(1). California's liberal gun policies not only didn't save this man but it can certainly be argued that california's liberal policy of releasing violent felons back onto the street killed this man despite their high incidence of recidivism(2). It can also be argued that had this man been empowered with the right to carry a concealed firearm, he would be alive today.
1.) "Acosta has a lengthy criminal record for crimes including rape and murder, and he had recently been released from prison" http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local-beat/Marine-Cable-Guy-69711867.html
2.) "The governor noted that California's recidivism rate is 70 percent, the highest in the nation." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/26/AR2006062601240.html
7 posted on
01/25/2010 11:57:14 AM PST by
RC one
(WHAT!!!)
To: Mobile Vulgus
i’m all for common-sense gun laws. it’s just my definition of common sense is closer to thomas paine and the constitution than the brady bunch’s definition of common sense.
8 posted on
01/25/2010 12:13:06 PM PST by
bravo whiskey
(If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
To: Mobile Vulgus
In a sense I supose one could say I am "on board" with him in this sense and maybe that is why he is (mis)interpreting his data. I don't care about "more gun laws" but the reason I don't care is because the gummint has "lost it's moral authority" to make any further gun laws that I feel any need to acknowledge.
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9 posted on
01/25/2010 12:48:42 PM PST by
wastoute
To: Mobile Vulgus
It’s amusing to watch the liberal moths flying into the gun control flame.
10 posted on
01/25/2010 12:51:35 PM PST by
Misterioso
(To deal with men by force is as impractical as to deal with nature by persuasion. -- Ayn Rand)
To: Mobile Vulgus
This guy is a putz. He’s the polling equivalent of Olympia Snowe. People hire this guy and he gives them the liberal results they want and they can claim the poll was done by a conservative Republican firm. He just exists to give statists a fig leaf. I think he says something like “it’s all in how you put your message”. Prick.
11 posted on
01/25/2010 1:19:50 PM PST by
Still Thinking
(Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
To: Mobile Vulgus
I’ve seen him present completely NON-common sense poll results in the past - which were obviously a result of the specific wording of the questions presented by the pollster. Mr. Luntz is a ‘gun for hire,’ and I’m sure his results always please the folks who hired him (whoever they were)...
13 posted on
01/25/2010 3:24:55 PM PST by
Who is John Galt?
("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
To: Mobile Vulgus
How did they verify the people participating In the poll are ACTUALLY NRA Members?Question: A proposal prohibiting people on the terrorist watch lists from purchasing guns.
Did it specify that people can end up on the terrorist watch lists without due process?
Did it specify how people can get off the terrorist watch lists? IE. Clear their name?
I wonder how people would answer if the question were posed with the provision that they had mistakenly been placed on the terrorist watch lists?
14 posted on
01/25/2010 3:30:12 PM PST by
GYL2
(Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
To: Mobile Vulgus
Consider that in most conflicts an enemy will telegraph their moves ahead of time, let’s connect the dots here.
A few months ago, the department of homeland security intimated that they considered certain people as possible Domestic terrorists
Such people being those that support the second amendment and veterans among others.
Now, the Far-left National Socialists are pushing to restrict people on the Terror watch lists from buying guns.
So, to put it all together, they would like to restrict anyone who is a veteran or supports the second amendment from buying guns which by most accounts would be ANYONE wanting to buy a gun, isn’t that neat how that works out for them?
15 posted on
01/25/2010 5:54:02 PM PST by
GYL2
(Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
To: Mobile Vulgus
The biggest problem with Luntz’s poll is that it’s impossible to “poll NRA members”. The NRA membership list is a closely guarded secret. Luntz could not have conducted the poll he claims to have conducted.
17 posted on
01/25/2010 11:46:32 PM PST by
Redcloak
(No... I haven't been drinking. Why do you ask?)
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