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Topic A: What Happens If Democrats Lose In Massachusetts?
Washington Post ^ | January 16th 2010

Posted on 01/16/2010 11:43:02 AM PST by Steelfish

Topic A: What Happens If Democrats Lose In Massachusetts?

January 17

The Post asked political experts to explain the prospects for Democrats if Martha Coakley is defeated in Tuesday's special Senate election in Massachusetts. Below are contributions from Norman J. Ornstein, Dan Schnur, Mary Beth Cahill, Ed Rogers, Robert J. Blendon and Martin Frost.

NORMAN J. ORNSTEIN

Resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute

A Scott Brown victory would send shock waves through Democratic Party circles, the Senate and the White House -- and not just because of the improbability of a Republican win in deep-blue Massachusetts. The real impact would be more immediate, jeopardizing passage of a health-reform plan carefully and painstakingly stitched together to win exactly 60 Democratic votes in the Senate, and not yet ready for its prime-time vote to move to final enactment.

Democrats have three options. One is to speed up delicate negotiations between House and Senate Democrats in order to bring up the bill before Brown gets sworn in. Even with their current sense of urgency, that is dicey at best. The bill will need to be scored by the Congressional Budget Office, meaning at minimum several days. Then a vote on final passage could be delayed for yet more days, using a variety of parliamentary tactics, in the Senate. Democrats control the Senate, so they can delay the swearing-in of Brown, but to do so for weeks would be uncomfortable and probably would not play well politically.

The second option would be to go back to Maine Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, the only two Republicans who might consider supporting a bill. Snowe's refusal to vote for the Senate bill in December was in part based on substance, but in part a protest of the Democrats' decision to get to 60 votes

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1 posted on 01/16/2010 11:43:02 AM PST by Steelfish
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The Dem Party would experience a disaster of Biblical proportions
2 posted on 01/16/2010 11:48:24 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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For those of us far away from Massachusetts, I hope that Freepers will post accurate information about the crowd sizes and crowd enthusiasm at the Brown and Coakley events this weekend.

This may tell us something about likely turnout on Tuesday...

3 posted on 01/16/2010 11:48:24 AM PST by nvskibum
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To: Steelfish

If they lose the democrat party will start moving to the center.


4 posted on 01/16/2010 11:48:46 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: PapaBear3625

Great post!


5 posted on 01/16/2010 11:51:00 AM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

What Happens If Democrats Lose In Massachusetts?

You mean other than: Mad Dawg gets drunk for a week in celebration?
6 posted on 01/16/2010 11:51:06 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Steelfish
The 1st thing that popped in my head was, “life goes on”.
7 posted on 01/16/2010 11:51:43 AM PST by MamaB (If you see someone without a smile, give them yours.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Nets will have to be erected around MSNBC and other news headquarters to catch Liberal Jumpers.


8 posted on 01/16/2010 11:54:03 AM PST by screaminsunshine (!!three if by government)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Do they even remember how to pretend to do that?


9 posted on 01/16/2010 11:56:02 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Steelfish
What Happens If Democrats Lose In Massachusetts?

Perhaps there will be mass self homicide.

10 posted on 01/16/2010 11:56:09 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Mad Dawg
What Happens If Democrats Lose In Massachusetts?

Nanny Pelosi will proclaim "We Won!!"

Gibbs will dismiss its significance, saying everyone knows RATSachusetts is a right-wing state.

11 posted on 01/16/2010 11:57:28 AM PST by freespirited (People talk about "too big to fail." Our government is too big to succeed. --Chris Chocola)
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I wonder how Olympia Snowe feels about being labeled as the go-to traitor of Republicans when the voting gets close?

She must know that a majority of the country is rooting for a Brown win in order to stop Obamacare. Would she really want to be the person who takes the candy away from the baby after a Brown win? Does she want to be the Grinch who steals Christmas from Republicans?

She would never be forgiven if she's the one who drives a stake through the heart of the effort to stop Obamacare.

-PJ

12 posted on 01/16/2010 11:57:47 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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Essentially, all of these pundits are predicting a clear Coakley victory. They think a Brown victory is a pipe-dream despite reputable polls to the contrary.


13 posted on 01/16/2010 11:58:05 AM PST by behzinlea
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To: Steelfish
What Happens If Democrats Lose In Massachusetts?

"Every time a Democrat loses a moonbat from hell gets its wings burned off."

14 posted on 01/16/2010 12:01:15 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: screaminsunshine

*chuckle*


15 posted on 01/16/2010 12:01:55 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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Here's what the DemonRATs are sending out to raise money...

I just got up to Martha Coakley's campaign HQ to help her win Tuesday's crucial special election. I have to tell you -- this isn't like anything Massachusetts has ever seen.

It's happening right after the holidays, so a lot of people haven't even heard about it. Meanwhile, the same guys behind the Swift Boat ads are taking over the airwaves to distort Martha's record, and the same far-right tea-party crowd that's attacking President Obama is funding her opponent.

The stakes in this race are incredibly high. If we don't hold this seat, a right-wing Republican will hold Sen. Ted Kennedy's old seat until at least 2012 -- and we'll lose a crucial vote in the Senate for health reform and the agenda we fought so hard for last year.

That's why we're going all out in Massachusetts with a massive effort to lock up a Democratic victory. But we can only afford to keep this battle up against the far right through Election Day if folks like you chip in.

Please donate $5 or more to help us make Martha Coakley the next senator from Massachusetts.

Democratic ads are highlighting the key differences between Martha, a long-time public servant and one of the nation's best attorneys general, and her extreme Republican opponent who would walk in lockstep with Mitch McConnell and national GOP power brokers.

And our organizers are engaging volunteers by the thousands to make sure Obama voters make it back to the polls.

But we need your help to keep it going. Please donate $5 or more to the Democratic Party to support our work, including our efforts to elect Martha Coakley:

Let's win this,

Hari

Hari Sevugan
Press Secretary
Democratic National Committee

16 posted on 01/16/2010 12:02:25 PM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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What Happens If Democrats Lose In Massachusetts?

Could be 51-0 if Obama deigns to hold an election in 2012.

ML/NJ

17 posted on 01/16/2010 12:04:16 PM PST by ml/nj
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No one seems to have considered what would happen in the House on a Brown victory. I think a handful of Dems who voted for health care will be so frightened of reelection defeat that they will vote against health care. That would be enough to kill the bill.


18 posted on 01/16/2010 12:07:43 PM PST by Otho
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To: harpu
Hari Sevugan's bio.

Hari Sevugan

19 posted on 01/16/2010 12:09:58 PM PST by csvset
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To: Steelfish
I recommend going to the link and reading what Dan Schnur said about it. He starts by saying Coakley can't lose, and goes on about how Zero should be smart enough to not get too involved with the campaign.
Schnur was McCains 2000 campaign Comm Director and here he is giving Zero pointers to help him! No wonder McCain lost!
20 posted on 01/16/2010 12:11:18 PM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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