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To: Normandy

Hang on for the march of the tin-foil hats on this one..:o)

Everyone who has been belly laughing at the new physics and zero point energy are going to have a rude awakening in the near future.

The people whose interest it is to keep using fossil fuels ultimately cannot kill everyone who is working on ZPE. We will in the not too distant future have unlimited zero cost energy that will power everything. Steorn is just one of many who are on the verge of huge breakthroughs in this field. Most are staying real silent literally out of fear of being killed. ZPE will upset the whole power structure in the world. It is the next BIG thing..and it will be Earth changing.


3 posted on 01/10/2010 1:50:06 PM PST by flash2368
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To: flash2368

Does anyone have ANY idea where this ‘free’ energy is coming from? Geothermal, solar, nuclear, wind, tides, moonlight or ????


5 posted on 01/10/2010 1:58:14 PM PST by Wingy (Don't blame me. I voted for the chick. I hope to do so again.)
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To: flash2368

Other than ZPE being a lot a BS (it is a nanoscopic
energy, but so what?) why is there a “fear” of “being killed”?


11 posted on 01/10/2010 2:15:07 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: flash2368

I really do understad the skepticism here. What they are claiming is “impossible” and Steorn does have notable public failures. However, it looks like the current demonstration which lasts through the end of January is the culmination of lots of R&D work and is designed to give conclusive proof of their technology. Sure there will be lots of doubters, but I think it is worth watching.


14 posted on 01/10/2010 2:25:36 PM PST by Normandy
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To: flash2368
Most are staying real silent literally out of fear of being killed.

Best thing to do if they can get something working is to get the information on how to do it spread out as far and as wide as possible.

No patents - they can be bought up and shelved. No trade secrets - that's a death sentence for sure, and the knowledge dies too. Yes, it minimizes the profitability of it, but that's better than the machine never seeing the light of day

But yes, in the end I'm a bit of a Doubting Thomas - I need to see this one to believe it.

17 posted on 01/10/2010 2:41:31 PM PST by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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To: flash2368
Everyone who has been belly laughing at the new physics and zero point energy are going to have a rude awakening in the near future... Steorn is just one of many who are on the verge of huge breakthroughs in this field. Most are staying real silent literally out of fear of being killed.

I will accept your pemise for the sake of discussion. And I will imagine how I would handle the situation if I found I had discovered a source of unlimited, free and clean energy. Let's see, hummm... what would I do? Oh, I know. I would produce electrity and sell it back to either the power company or to big commercial users. Or I would produce steam or hot water and sell that.

So why is Steorn wasting his time trying to convince people he has found free energy? Why not just produce it and sell it? Why not just keep quiet and let the bucks roll in?

28 posted on 01/10/2010 3:17:24 PM PST by Upstate NY Guy
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To: flash2368

“It is the next BIG thing..and it will be Earth changing.”

Either it works and they can proof it (build a working model for examination) or they can articulate the principle, or it doesn’t and it’s a scam.

My money is on the latter.


29 posted on 01/10/2010 3:18:09 PM PST by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: flash2368

Thank God they’ve discovered things that COMPLETELY defy the laws of physics! It’s about time!


43 posted on 01/11/2010 3:47:06 AM PST by Lazamataz (America has been dead for a while; It's interesting to watch the cadaver cool.)
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To: flash2368

Thermodynamics. It’s not just a good idea, it’s the law.


44 posted on 01/11/2010 3:55:07 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Virtue is to be apologized for. Depravity commands respect. - Galt)
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To: flash2368

“The people whose interest it is to keep using fossil fuels ultimately cannot kill everyone who is working on ZPE.”

No, Big Oil and the league of Utility Operators, in collusion with King Coal will just make everyone associated with ZPE look foolish. They’ll make it seem that you are involved in a “perpetual motion conspiracy” (they always say that). The objective is to make it seem that just because the scrappy ZPE contenders are somehow not providing actual evidence of their device functioning, that they should not be taken seriously.

Their game never changes......”Laws of Thermodynamics”, “Creation of energy out of thin air”, “perpetual motion”, “complete nonsense”, “no evidence of actual energy generation”, “pie-in-the-sky”.....these are all things that they’ll throw around, just like they always do.

Who do these guys thing they are?


46 posted on 01/11/2010 4:49:07 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: flash2368
Everyone who has been belly laughing at the new physics and zero point energy are going to have a rude awakening in the near future.

It would be great if you are right.

However, it would take some pretty serious, groundbreaking science - made available to other scientists to verify - to get many knowledgeable people to believe that the laws of thermodynamics have been repealed.

Can you provide this kind of proof?

48 posted on 01/11/2010 5:08:47 AM PST by paulycy (AMERICA: Less safe. Less free. More broke.)
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