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To: Vendome; Brytani

I hope I didn’t come off as snarky in my question to you, Vendome. I just wasn’t sure what you were looking for, and wanted to help if I could. :)

I was adopted as an infant, so you and Brytani have a much better understanding of the issue as it affects those who know their birth name, are adopted as an older child, etc... I can only attest to how hard it would be for anyone adopted - whether as an infant, or older to actually access a copy of the true original themselves. It most certainly cannot be done without a court order. Even then one that showed his name “pre-adoption” would NOT be considered a legally valid document - as you said, the only one after that point that is legal is the amended certificate.

Now, I do remember seeing some sort of documentation somewhere about his adoption where his name is mentioned as Barry Soetero (and it wasn’t his Indonesian school record I don’t think), but I doubt there’s any way I’ll be able to remember where it was that I saw it. [It’s one reason why I am REALLY upset that my hard-drive crashed earlier this year as I hadn’t yet transferred copies - when will I learn??? I had so much information stored on it regarding this issue - very frustrating...]


244 posted on 12/31/2009 9:53:19 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: LibertyRocks; Brytani
Snarky? Whatever Oldtimer. LOL.

I think that is what bothers many of us about Barry O.’s COLB. It is hyphenated, we know that there are at least three Long Form BC’s in existence and Barry has two in his possession; the one he used to obtain his first passport and maybe to enter college, as well for other documentation requirements.

The most damning BC that he absolutely has is the one he found amongst his mother's belongings, upon her death. It seemed pretty important as he described it in his book and wondered what it meant in his life.

I know if I found something like that, given an absentee father, I would keep and put in some protective cover as I have done with antique documents(I have known mine and my relatives all my life and he just wasn't around hence, my adoption by my Dad).

Now, we have been given to understand or infer Barry was adopted. Was he? I have found no documentation and have only anecdotal information that says “it's possible”, yet there is also a way to read the information as a lie created by parents to obtain an advantage for their child.

Did Lolo adopt Barry? Who knows. There would be documentation between two countries if he was and we have none to prove it is true.

Yes, Barry's sister said that he was but how do ascertain with certainty her story isn't anything more than “family lore”, which exists in all families. You hear one thing but reality is another.

If Barry was adopted then he is operating under an AKA or he had his name legally changed back to Barack Obama. In any case, if we assume the later, where is that documentation? It is out there if it is true and maybe we have not asked the right question to the correct venue.

So what really happened? Don't know but I do seek the answer.

What we do have is a man that has concealed his entire past and we are only given a chalkboard upon which we can project whatever we hope to see. But without proof, none of it is a fact.

Is Barry one of the smartest men ever? His college records would certainly shed light. We have an article where he discoursed about disarmament and it appears to have been written by a high schooler, who has not even taken to rudimentary background of his article.

Barry himself is project some Aquarius utopia in the article but not anything reasoned or even approachable.

Is he a deep thinker? We have the records of GW and John Kerry to ascertain what their academic performance was. So when GW spoke plainly, given his grades in college, it wasn't a surprise, really.

Could Barry skate through life with an invented life story, designed to bolster his ability to ascend to certain positions? How could it be out of the realm? We have Senators who claimed certain experience in Vietnam and later recanted. We have University professors claiming all sorts of things about themselves, in an effort to appeal to their audience and there is a certain one, in Colorado, who was dismissed for doing just that.

I have worked with people who pretended to so smart and a college graduate, so they could obtain a position with the firm I was working with. Heck, there where so proud of their accomplishment the prominently displayed their “Diploma” in their cubicle.

These are guys who where under the scrutiny of a Fortune 500 and the investigation company presumably verified the claims on their resumes. And yet, later they were discovered for not possessing a diploma and where summarily dismissed.

We have a certain mayor who claimed military action and status that didn't exist.

Similar occurrences can be found at leadership of major companies and even where I live, government representatives, who where well known in the community, vouched for and found to be frauds.

Now you have probably heard about Bernie Madoff and Mr. Stanford of Houston but, here in the Bay Area there is a similar man so well known among the power movers of the community and he sits in jail now for similar fraud.

How could it happen? How could his past be concealed? I don't put anymore thought into it other than that was there intent and they worked at it.

So I ask again to anyone: Where is the one page missing in the divorce decree for Barack Sr., in Hawaii and where is the documentation of Barry's adoption?

Hope you had a great time for New Years.

248 posted on 01/01/2010 6:21:04 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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