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That’s a chilling step past killing newborns that are already suffering, and like the Nazis, this is, as Ms. Buiting so cavalierly noted, a medical and government-sanctioned form of exercising social control.

And this is EXACTLY what Zero and his "czars" will implement in the United States.

1 posted on 12/13/2009 10:10:58 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 12/13/2009 10:11:25 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 12/13/2009 10:11:58 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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“...but also to the grave suffering foreseen in the future.”
I forsee grave suffering in the future for bitch buiting. Guess we’d better perform a retroactive abortion on her pronto.


4 posted on 12/13/2009 10:15:28 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

5 posted on 12/13/2009 10:16:50 AM PST by narses ('in an odd way this is cheering news!'.)
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BUMP


6 posted on 12/13/2009 10:18:06 AM PST by kitkat
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7 posted on 12/13/2009 10:19:40 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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“Useless Eaters”, based on an article by Mark Mostert:

http://www.regent.edu/acad/schedu/uselesseaters/


8 posted on 12/13/2009 10:23:33 AM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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CBF here is part of what Mark was alluding to, the ultimate in ‘contraception’ - post-partum abortions. In Europe.


9 posted on 12/13/2009 10:28:09 AM PST by narses ('in an odd way this is cheering news!'.)
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We are fast approaching the point where we will be morally justified in...I better not say it on here.


10 posted on 12/13/2009 10:41:55 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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This is so sad...it is even more sad that persons have such a culture of death, even here in this so-called Christian nation, that they will buy in to the evil of eugenics. Parents will pay the price for letting their children be led astray.
11 posted on 12/13/2009 11:49:24 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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It’s important to focus not just on “negative eugenics”, but the failures of “positive eugenics” as well. And do not underestimate either, because there is some considerable “natural sensibility” in eugenics.

To start with, eugenics is the flip side of natural selection. All living things cooperate and compete with all other living things, especially in their species, to determine which will survive and reproduce. But this is full of all sorts of ups and downs, and terribly complex.

However, humans in nature do not particularly like all the contests that are foisted on us by disease, parasites, the weather, etc., so we seek to overcome them. This means that we bias the system, so that some who were supposed to lose, win, and some who would have otherwise die, live.

So, in a manner of speaking, medical care, agriculture, clothing, fire, etc., all go against natural selection. And this has long term consequences, not all of which are bad.

But we focus on the bad consequences. We understand that there are people who are born with severely ill health and mental incapacity, and that they are expensive and difficult to keep alive. So the question is, at first, should such people have children, if they will likewise be public charges?

And quickly this becomes the new question: Why is the public paying to keep these people alive? Here is where “negative eugenics” arises.

But there are also many people who want their children to not just survive, but to excel, in the contest of natural selection. This is based on the observation that both plants and animals can be selectively bred to produce a “better” variety of plant and animal. And this is quite true.

However, people are not skilled at selectively breeding ourselves. This means that the teenage girl whose body tells her that a particular boy is attractive, is actually far more likely than any amount of genetic calculation made by scientists, to produce a superior offspring.

How she reaches this conclusion is mysterious, but teenage girls do it all the time. And this is not unique to humans, because this selection is seen throughout the animal kingdom, in a great contest between males and females to produce the best offspring.

And even a farmer who has a gift at cross breeding animals will likely do much better than scientists in picking the best pair to mate.

So even “positive eugenics” is way over our heads, and almost certain to fail.


12 posted on 12/13/2009 12:23:15 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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These non-believers will answer to God one day!

Please Pray for the Unborn
 
 
 

14 posted on 12/13/2009 2:45:25 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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