You: “The difference is that my position can be influenced by reason where yours, as you admit, cannot.”
Me: “Actually - it is an “Escape from Reason” (ref Francis Schaeffer’s book by that name) to assert that God is not there and the claims of the Bible are not true....REASON demands the verdict that only an intelligent designer could create the intricate complexities of all we find in the universe.”
You: “And what evidence do you have that the Creator is your God and not, for example, Zeus?”
Me: “The Bible which archaeological discoveries have continued to find to be accurate in its historical record along with the historical certainty of the life of the person Jesus (of Nazareth/Christ),,,,just for a start.”
You: “There’s no more evidence of the divinity of Christ in the archeological record than there is for the Greek gods in the archeological investigations into Homer’s Troy.”
{Why did you do a LEAP saying I had said anything about the Bible giving evidence of the divinity of Christ when I did not even mention that subject? I spoke of the historical recoard of the MAN, the historical figure, named Jesus (of Nazareth/Christ = those are his other identifying names)
Now you say:”I haven’t asked for proof for the divinity of Christ. I have asked for evidence all along.”
Me - AGAIN my only reference to Jesus did not attempt to prove his divinity.....here - again - is what I said:
“Jesus (of Nazareth/Christ) - the main subject of the entire New Testament (and of course foretold in the Old Tesatment) - was a human being who lived and died - just as the Bible reports he did as attested to by non-Biblical sources such as Josephus, the jewish Historian.”
My additional explanatory comments since you seem to miss the plain meaning of what I wrote is this:
The EVIDENCE from the historical record (Josephus is not a Biblical writer) is that Jesus lived and died just exactly when the Bible says he lived and died, in the location the Bible reports he lived and died.
The non-Biblical evidence of Jesus’ life matches up with the Biblical accounts of the life of Jesus.
I said nothing (at that time) about proving or even giving evidence of the divinity of Jesus Christ.,,,but you keep ignoring that fact.
Do you agree that Jesus did live in Israel at the time the Bible says he lived in the place the Bible says he lived?
Start back there.
It takes REASON to agree with that fact.
Apologies. There I was thinking that everytime you answered my questions about what evidence you had for the creator being God or the divinity of that you might actually be trying to provide some.
I think that there is a whole heap of evidence to suggest that some of the comments attibuted to Jospehus are later insertions, maybe 4th C AD. However, I do tend to agree that and individual named Jesus probably lived in Galilee at the beginning of the first century, worked as a holy man and was put to death by the Romans/Jewish authorities.