Posted on 11/27/2009 12:02:11 PM PST by syc1959
Here is an interesting article and audio.
http://www.archive.org/details/OtunnuOnLuoTribeMemberBeingElectedPresidentOct.252008
Otunnu on Luo Tribe Member Being Elected President, Oct. 25, 2008
Olara Otunnu (Harvard Law, 1978) relating the remark of Kenyan historian Ali Mazrui on the oddity that a member of Kenyas Luo tribe (Barack Obama, a Kenyan citizen and Luo tribe member from birth) may become president of the United States before a Luo tribe member becomes president of Kenya. Town Hall Forum: An Examination of Race, Age, Gender & Religion in the 2008 Election, Harvard Law School Reunions, Oct. 25, 2008, 9:15 a.m. (Austin Hall, 1st Floor, West), at 60:17 mark.
Notice that it is a Kenyan historian that states Barack Obama is a Kenyan citizen and Luo tribe member from BIRTH!
US Natural Born citizen = US Citizen + US Allegiance + US Jurisdiction
Obama is a British subject, allegiance to the British Crown, under the British Nationality Act of 1948
Remember this was done BEFORE the election, but after numerous requests during the primary for Barack Hussein Obama to PROVE his eligibility per the United States Constitution. After the election the Kenyan Parliment stated the following;
NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL REPORT
Wednesday, 5th November, 2008
The House met at 9.00 a.m.
Dr. Khalwale: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. You have heard none other than the Leader of Government Business acknowledge that because of Obamas win in the United States of America (USA), the House is crippled.
Could we allow him to move a Motion for Adjournment so that we could also continue the celebrations of having a Kenyan ruling the USA? I humbly request! *****[note - "having a Kenyan ruling the USA"!]
Read the rest and more here: http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/kenyan-historian-ali-mazrui-states-obama-kenyan-citizen/
(Excerpt) Read more at nobarack08.wordpress.com ...
Excellent posts (as always) by BP2:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2395528/posts?page=175#175
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2395528/posts?page=187#187
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2395528/posts?page=189#189
There are three classes of citizenship:
Naturalized — Arnold — born in Austria — Austrian parents — citizenship as a result of process.
Native Born — Obama — One American parent and one from somewhere else -— born in the USA — anybody born on US soil qualifies.
Natural Born — George Bush — both citizen parents — born in the USA.
The Obama Campaign, on its website, identified Obama as a “native born” citizen.
http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/FightTheSmearsCOLBHTML.htm
It’s right there. It’s been there all along. They know he’s ineligible.
This situation was created when both major political parties ran ineligible candidates, who were not “natural born” citizens. Obama was ineligible because his father was a foreigner (Jus sanguinis), and McCain was ineligible because he was born in a foreign country (Jus soli). The U. S Constitution, applicable case law and historical and legal precedent have been ignored for political expediency.
We are now witnessing the biggest political cover-up in American history.
You Obots can continue with you onanism till the cows come home.
It won’t change the fact that Obama is a usurper — history will out — end of story.
The real point is:
An honest man would be **HONORED** to promptly and full prove in every way that his is a natural born citizen and eligible to be president. He would do this for **anyone** even the nuts.
What do Obama’s action have to say about his honor and honesty?
What does Obama’s action say about those who defend him?
At some point, we must purge the Liberals from our midst. This social cancer has spread far enough. It is not just the”government.” It is those who elect it...
"Street cred"????
What street cred?
He is half African, at most, not American 'descended from slaves'--or even freemen black, not "inner city" black, not "ghetto" black, not 'back of the bus Jim-Crow black, not even poor-dirt-road/floor-rural-field-hand black. He HAS NO 'American black experience', even as a birthright--he even claims to have gone to a school where children from 'mixed marriages' were generally accepted.
Where is the 'downtroddenness' in all that? Columbia? Harvard?
Street cred? Don't make me laugh. He's a fraud all the way around, capitalizing on suntan while selling America a bill of goods.
So consider, in a liberation theology church claims of African birth would go a long ways.
Yet there is no evidence that BHO ever made such a claim over the period of a decade and change when it would have been to his great advantage to do so.
Other uses for street cred:
I have never been a fan of Alex Jones, but in this movie, however, I see a lot of similarities to what and WHO (?) with a puppet is shredding our country apart!!!
They are like my 90-year mother-in-law, when I challenge her with the usurper's eligibility issue!!
She says emphatically, "I don't care, because I voted for him"!!!
Since you’ve really seen all these productions, you must be a real fan of Alex Jones!!!
Except that the Constitution only identifies two: natural born and naturalized. And I'm not aware of any law that defines three classes of citizenship.
You Obots can continue with you onanism till the cows come home.
And you Birthers can continue to make this stuff up as you go along. It provides a great deal of amusement to the rest of us.
Anyone who thinks the SCOTUS will vote for anything that could potentially overturn Sotomayor’s appointment is delusional.
But in a liberation theology church, isn't the primary hook anger over having been 'owned' (even though there are no living former slaves)? Isn't that the basis for the desire to get back at 'the white man' even though a vast number of caucasians here have no ancestral ties to slavery in the Americas, and their ancestors had not arrived until after slavery here was no longer practiced?
Direct African heritage would mean that the person was descended from either those who avoided capture or sold captives and others to the slave traders.
Of course, logic does not apply in the blame game, hatred is focused on a specific target regardless.
Yet there is no evidence that BHO ever made such a claim over the period of a decade and change when it would have been to his great advantage to do so.
If BHO was courting the American black vote on the basis of alleged past and present evils (some true, some not) he would have little to gain by asserting that he was not 'one of the masses'. As a child of apparent means, one who enjoyed educational opportunities unavailable to a multitude of other applicants but arguably available to him because of his appearance, his only 'cred' is derived from having 'overcome' the adversity alleged by the liberation theologists (not saying there is/was no adversity, but all who wish to achieve anything in life must overcome adversity at some point). To plant that in the collective psyche of that portion of the electorate (and that of guilty feeling liberals) he cannot claim to have been African born and free of the liberation theologist's claimed adversities of the African-American population.
To do so would separate him from that segment of the electorate, not bind him to it.
Instead, the myth must be that of someone who has endured not a life of relative priveledge, but one who has experienced hardship and triumphed.
It is just that, a myth.
But that is to be expected from someone who is all image and no substance, undocumented, and created in the illusionist's realm of media derived perception by an adoring group of syncophants.
I'm just pointing out where the man and the myth don't flange up.
I'm trying to get them down to the level of your posts. I realize I've still got a long way to go but I figure practice makes perfect.
Ever heard of the 14th Amendment, genius? Now go back to your mother's basement.
Yes I have. I've even read it, all of it. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." So where does that differentiate citizen from natural-born citizen? Where does any part of the Constitution define the difference? Where does any law define the difference? Can you answer that?
I live in Austin and have known of Alex Jones for at least 15 years. He at one time had a cable access show where he would rant about security cameras and government conspiracies.
Everything from Ruby Ridge and Waco and then he moved on to “9/11 Was an Inside Job” and in the process made a lot of cash.
And now he is ranting about Obama and how Obama, like Bush was not actually elected, but rather placed in power by a “shadow government.”
So, if you believe that Bush and Cheney were responsible for the Attacks of 9/11 and that a “shadow government,” placed both Bush and Obama in power, you may also stand with Alex in his belief that Obama was born in Kenya and his mother smuggled Baby Obama into the US in an effort to assure that he son would be a natural born citizen so that he could be placed into the presidency by the “shadow government”.
We know that Dick Cheney stood before the Congress and confirmed the vote of the Electoral College and we know that not one single member of the Congress objected to Obama’s eligibility, Chief Justice Roberts delivered the Oath of Office to Obama and we know that not one single member of the House of Representatives went on the Record by voting against a Resolution the recognized Hawaii as Obama’s place of birth.
So, there it is, Cheney, Roberts and the entirety of the House recognizing the Obama is a natural born citizen.
Forgive me, for my French is not all that great, as I am only laughed at when I try to order a meal in a Paris bistro, but where in the translation is the term "Natural Born Citizen?"
And if the Framers based the Constitution on the French writings of Vattel, how is it they invented the term "Natural Born Citizen?"
To English, gives this: "Citizens and Naturals."
Couple that with...
Translating the French text: "les naturels, ou indigenes, sont ceux qui sont nes dans le pays, de parents citoyens"
To English, gives this: "the natural, or indigenous, are those born in the country, parents who are citizens"
We can see that this particular text is defining the "natural" or naturals. Natural what? He's talking about citizens here and making a differentiation between "citizens" and "natural(s)" citizens who are those born in country to two citizen parents.
Of course, he also describes "Citizens" which is the other group that's part of the section title.
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