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1 posted on 11/26/2009 6:58:46 AM PST by no-llmd
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 11/26/2009 7:01:45 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: no-llmd; Carry_Okie; ancient_geezer; editor-surveyor
From the comments section:

As you noted, engineers are trained to Get Things Right. When I started at Virginia Tech, the first thing taught in the first engineering class was that lives will ride on your work. Error is fatal.

Truer words were never written. On top of that, we engineers are trained how to think, and to be ethical - the latter apparently not true of the CRU.

3 posted on 11/26/2009 7:08:29 AM PST by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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**Science and engineering and law are all adversarial systems which provide a crucible from which truth and real solutions can emerge. Failure to go through the crucible is not a trick – it is just failure.***

That is one weighty article but points out the public’s disadvantage when scams are perpetrated by the ‘educated elite’.

We really should have NO OTHER GODS - because He already knows what He’s doing and no posturing interlopers will change His course.


4 posted on 11/26/2009 7:08:55 AM PST by sodpoodle (Stop spreading the wealth and start spreading the truth.)
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Nice article.

The absurdity of depending on untestable, shoddily written computer models to prove anything is staggering.

Especially given the vast sums of money involved.

Climatology has proven to be as much a true science as astrology.


5 posted on 11/26/2009 7:09:05 AM PST by mike-zed
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To: no-llmd

I jokingly referred to these climate models as government-funded game simulations.
But honestly, video games have a lot more sophistication, refinement and testing to them than these climate models do.


6 posted on 11/26/2009 7:18:55 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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It sounds like the global warming establishment needs adult supervision.

I’ve spent a good part of my life reverse engineering operational software, simulations and test software. From the little bit I’ve seen from them, it seems like these guys and their code aren’t worth a pitcher of warm piss.

What academics are not familar with are written requirements and formal verificatin and validation. I’ve worked with at least two Ph.D. astronomers and lots of other Ph.D.s and some of them are excellent coders, and documenters. The astronomers seem to be better than other disciplines because their work is subject to validation. If the transit of Venus does not occur when expected, everyone knows about it. They also understand the idea of error bounds and the law of propagation of errors.

Some of the really and truly worst coders and engineers are Ph.D.s as well. There is that “I’ve got a Ph.D. and who are you to question me?” attitude. Mathematicians who can’t get anything done, assorted dilettants and poseurs.


8 posted on 11/26/2009 7:23:14 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (If CRU was a brokerage house it'd be called Madoff Associates.)
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Check THIS out! I saw it posted on another forum. I know it’s a ‘Larouche’ site.....but it’s funny as hell (if true)!!!!

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http://www.larouchepac.com/node/12520

November 25, 2009 (LPAC)—Not since Henry Kissinger fled a team of LaRouche organizers, in the back of a delivery truck in New York City’s Central Park in the early 1980s, has an obese fascist moved so fast to escape an angry crowd, as Al Gore did today in Chicago. Appearing at a bookstore in the downtown Loop, Gore was confronted by a team of demonstrators from a grass roots group called “We Are Change,” as he was signing his latest fascist screed on the global warming swindle. Gore bolted from the bookstore, raced down an alley, jumped into a waiting car, and tried to speed off, with protesters chasing after him and banging on the car. Midwest LYM organizers, who were also on the scene to confront the global warming swindler, provided an eyewitness account of Fat Albert’s flight of fear.

Make no mistake about it. This little encounter is typical of the kinds of things going on all over the country, as the fascists who brought you the near-destruction of the United States and an onrushing global Dark Age, are no longer walking the streets, smug in the belief that they are literally getting away with murder. The mass strike dynamic is playing out in thousands of ways, every day, and the recent revelations about the “smoking gun” emails from the East Anglia University global warming propaganda center, have made Al Gore’s life a little more miserable.

As Percy Shelley wrote in “The Mask of Anarchy,” “We are many, they are few.”


10 posted on 11/26/2009 7:28:09 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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Since Mayan science was peer-reviewed, settled science, and consensus, the world will indeed end in 2012....UNLESS you pay for state-mandated “delay credits” so certain elites who are WAY smarter can make some money off of suckers.


11 posted on 11/26/2009 7:34:35 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: no-llmd

I read somewhere recently that 70% of all the scientists who have ever lived are now alive.

At first I was impressed by that number.

But the more I think of it, the more I realize what a lie it is.

Every age probably has about the same small number of decent scientists.

The rest are all hacks and schlocks.

The true statement is that 70% of all the hacks and schlocks with science degrees who have ever lived are now alive.


12 posted on 11/26/2009 7:41:25 AM PST by samtheman
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Very interesting information from New Zealand. It keeps on building:

Uh, oh – raw data in New Zealand tells a different story than the “official” one.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/25/uh-oh-raw-data-in-new-zealand-tells-a-different-story-than-the-official-one/


16 posted on 11/26/2009 8:43:39 AM PST by no-llmd
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With the fate of humanity at risk, it is not too much to ask for professional quality code, analysis, and a true peer review process.

That is exactly what the AGW high priests did not want. Their perfidy cannot stand the light of reason.

20 posted on 11/26/2009 10:36:38 AM PST by Mike Darancette (0bama Happens)
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