Posted on 11/25/2009 10:13:48 PM PST by grey_whiskers
Ok.... Who is Tim Mitchell? Did he die or something? There's a very disturbing "HARRY_READ_ME.txt" file in documents that APPEARS to be somebody trying to fit existing results to data and much of it is about the code that's here. I think there's something very very wrong here... Quote:7. Removed 4-line header from a couple of .glo files and loaded them into Uhm... So they don't even KNOW WHAT THE ****ING DATA MEANS?!?!?!?! What dumbass names **** that way?! Talk about cluster****. This whole file is a HUGE ASS example of it. If they deal with data this way, there's no ****ing wonder they've lost **** along they way. This is just unbelievable. And it's not just one instance of not knowing what the hell is going on either: Quote:The deduction so far is that the DTR-derived CLD is waaay off. The DTR looks OK, well I've only actually read about 1000 lines of this, but started skipping through it to see if it was all like that when I found that second quote above somewhere way down in the file.... CLUSTER.... ****. This isn't science, it's gradeschool for people with big data sets.
It's justifiably immoral to try to deal in a moral fashion with an immoral entity.
Last modified: 2009-11-21 01:43:45 by asimov
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After TG'g, just working my way through a days pings. LOL
One of which I believe is the thread you've directed me to. ;^)
yup! -very interesting indeed!
-ever go to the Anthony Watts site: watts up with that.com?
read THIS:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/25/climategate-hide-the-decline-codified/#comment-236724
“...So, to me this identifies it as the program we cannot use any more because the coefficients were lost. As it says in the gridding read_me:
“Bear in mind that there is no working synthetic method for cloud, because Mark New lost the coefficients file and never found it again (despite searching on tape archives at UEA) and never recreated it.
This hasn't mattered too much, because the synthetic cloud grids had not been discarded for 1901-95, and after 1995 sunshine data is used instead of cloud data anyway.”
———”So.. we don't have the coefficients files (just .eps plots of something). But what are all those monthly files? DON'T KNOW, UNDOCUMENTED.
“Wherever I look, there are data files, no info about what they are other than their names. And that's useless.. take the above example, the filenames in the _mon and _ann directories are identical, but the contents are not.
And the only difference is that one directory is apparently ‘monthly’ and the other ‘annual’ - yet both contain monthly files.”
“So, uhhhh.. what in tarnation is going on? Just how off-beam are these datasets?!!”
catching up ... bttt
"-ever go to the Anthony Watts site: watts up with that.com? read THIS:"
Seems there's talk. LOL
"Yeah...just how off-beam are their data sets???"
Ahhhhh, enough to render/award it all "Gibberish" status? LOL ;^)
Good luck,...there are ton’s of threads...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/25/climategate-hide-the-decline-codified/#comment-236724
anaon (15:46:02) 11/25/09:
“What we have here is a documented THREE year effort by a CRU programmer, who had access to all the data, access to all the code, access to all the people who developed the code and the models and still HE could still NOT duplicate CRUs OWN results. If he cant it simply means the CRUs results cannot be reproduced even by themselves and so there is no point anyone else even trying CRU themselves have proven its a waste of time and so they themselves have proven their own results are plain rubbish. That means any peer reviewed document CRU produced along with any other papers that cited the CRU papers are based on data the CRU themselves cant verify.
Besides, the absolutly sorry state of affairs in the data handling and software managment the HARRY_READ_ME.txt reveals, the utter and total mess of CRU data and software this document reveals is WHY CRU has not released its data and model software.
Given the CRU is one of the most, if not the most cited sources of climate data upon which trillions of dollars of economic policy is being set, the importance of what the HARRY_READ_ME.txt file reveals becomes scary.”
A very nice laymans summary of some of the issues in the HARRY_READ_ME.txt can be found here
Haahahahaa! This is a very well done Climate gate parody:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk&feature=player_embedded
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