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The Piltdown Man walks (CRU Hack-Fall out Prediction among Scientists)
Blogger ^ | Monday, November 23, 2009 | yargb

Posted on 11/23/2009 9:00:16 PM PST by dila813

A lot of the posting about the CRU document hack revolves around how it will play in the press. There is a certain amount of cynicism that, because of the investment in AGW, the press and politicians tied to its cause will ignore or explain away the documents as best as possible. While I have no doubt that is true, I don't think it matters. What really matters is how the Climatologists and other Science Departments view it.

In 1908 the first fragments of the Piltdown Man skull were reportedly found. By 1912 the news of the discovery reached the popular press. While scientists outside of Britain were at first skeptical of the find, many were converted when, in 1917 it was announced that Piltdown II had been discovered.

The Piltdown skulls were of course hoaxes.

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: climategate; cruhack; globalwarming
Not sure of his background, but seems reasonable
1 posted on 11/23/2009 9:00:19 PM PST by dila813
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“...Climatologists and other Science Departments...”

I’m not sure what a climatologist is, or what their connection to science might be, apart from government grants and university programs that depend on perpetuating the warming scam. A lot of scientists have embarrassed themselves and science by trying to dupe the world with this lunacy.


2 posted on 11/23/2009 9:47:20 PM PST by pallis
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To: dila813
Back in the '60's, when I was in high school, It was explained to me in no uncertain terms that the Sun's storm cycles cause weather changes on Earth. These cycles were from 11 to 17 years on average. The more storms, the hotter the weather. They had ice samples, tree rings, and various other data to prove their theory. It was believable, and repeatable. We knew even then that CO2 was entrapped in water and ice and the heat released the CO2, not the other way around where the CO2 was released and it heated the Earth. Now, we are told all was wrong and we are dying if we don't pay more taxes. I'm still trying to get my mind around how me paying more money will save the planet.

As a kicker, we were taught that the glaciers have been melting for at least 10-20k years, so what has happened to change that? Ice melts over time unless we are going into an ice age. Man made global warming is the same as Social Security, Medicare, welfare, and now the Health Care take over,.......POWER! They want to take over your life and dribble out benefits so you will vote for them perpetually. Just try to imagine you needing a hip replacement and the government says you can get a stainless joint instead of a plastic one if you for for the Dem. They have done this for decades in SS money and Medicare. Vote for me and I will get you $5 more per month.

Get Cap and Trade and get 5 gallons more per month tax fee for my vote. You can ride your moped 100 miles father. Won't you be grateful?

America is heading for the look of Havana or Hanoi. I don't know how we will feed the world plowing with water buffalo.

3 posted on 11/23/2009 9:48:17 PM PST by chuckles
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To: dila813

From the article:

“If nothing else, it is not often the Social Scientists can laugh at how sloppy a so-called hard science is with its facts.”

AGW is NOT a hard science. It does not make falsifiable predictions from theories and then test them.


4 posted on 11/23/2009 10:15:14 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: dila813; Desdemona; Fractal Trader; grey_whiskers; markomalley; scripter; Defendingliberty; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

5 posted on 11/24/2009 3:00:55 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: dila813
From the article:

They have a lot of work ahead of them to repair the reputation of their discipline, and that reputation will not be repaired by spinning more alarm out of vapor in the Sunday supplements.

Well, Andrew Revkin of the NY Times, who is involved as a media cheerleader for CRU in the referenced emails, has decided to move the goalposts, per Jonathan Adler at the Volokh Conspiracy:

The NYT’s environmental blog, Dot Earth, covered the disclosure of e-mails and other files from the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit, noted that the files are available on various other website, but did not reproduce any files on its site.  As Andrew Revkin explained in the post:

"The documents appear to have been acquired illegally and contain all manner of private information and statements that were never intended for the public eye, so they won’t be posted here."

Am I wrong in thinking that this is a change in policy for the NYT?  Hasn’t the Grey Lady published illegally obtained documents on national security and other matters in the past?

Revkin's self-serving hypocrisy, masquerading as ethical journalism, is pathetic.

6 posted on 11/24/2009 4:21:37 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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In 1908 the first fragments of the Piltdown Man skull were reportedly found. By 1912 the news of the discovery reached the popular press. While scientists outside of Britain were at first skeptical of the find, many were converted when, in 1917 it was announced that Piltdown II had been discovered.

Yep, "Anthropogenic Global Warming" is the Piltdown man of climate science...

See the video below for documentation ... :-)


It’s one thing to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but it’s quite another to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...

THEREFORE..., it’s also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply one video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the one...


The following is an excellent video documentary on the so-called “Global Warming” I would recommend it to all FReepers. It’s a very well-made documentary.

“The Great Global Warming Swindle”

If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link. Information about BitTorrent protocol and BitTorrent clients and their comparison at these three links (in this sentence). Some additional BitTorrent information here and here.

Download it here...
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3635222/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
[This is a high-quality copy, of about a gigabyte in size. This link is the information about it, and you have to click the download link to get it on your BitTorrent client software. You'll also find users' comments here, too.]

It’s worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.

Also, see it online here...
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/great_global_warming_swindle.php
[this one is considerably lower quality, is a flash video and viewable online, of course..., and also, you can download flash video on a website either yourself or some software doing it.]

Buy it on DVD here...
[this would be the very highest quality version, on a DVD disk, of several gigabytes in size...] At Amazon, it seems to be high-priced now and have only a few copies right now.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WLUXZE

At WAGtv (a UK shop), but don't know about shipping. The price is reasonable, though.
https://www.wagtv.com/product/The-Great-Global-Warming-Swindle-322.html
[And..., some information from WAGtv about this item.]


Also, in split parts on YouTube...

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 1 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqqWJugXzs

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 2 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5rGpDMN8lw

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 3 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzFL6Ixe_bo

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 4 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNQy2rT_dvU

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 5 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dzIMXGI6k8

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 6 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GjOgQN1Jco

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 7 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHI2GfbfrYw

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 8 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N9benJh3Lw

The Great Global Warming Swindle - Credits (Part 9 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_1ifP-ri58

7 posted on 11/24/2009 6:16:50 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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