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1 posted on 11/19/2009 4:40:04 AM PST by mattstat
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The failure of the analysis is likely that people value their own lives much higher than government accountants do. I wouldn't be surprised that they even put $0 as the value of a life saved, counting only mammogram costs vs treatment costs.

That $0 valuation on human life will be a common factor throughout Obamacare.

2 posted on 11/19/2009 4:48:19 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Obamalaise - the new mood for America.)
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Unscreened women accounted for 75% of the breast cancer deaths in an analysis of data on 6,997 invasive breast cancers diagnosed in 1990-1999 and followed through 2007. Study confirms Value of Routine Mammograms
3 posted on 11/19/2009 4:53:18 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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In typical muslim philosophy, women’s lives don’t count for dirt.


5 posted on 11/19/2009 5:12:17 AM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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Nobody stopped to consider that both conspiracies can’t be true simultaneously, and that maybe—just maybe—the people who wrote the article believed what they were saying.

It is a mistake to think that conspiracies are run by cynical people who don't believe what they are saying. Most conspiracies are run by people who completely believe what they are saying, they are simply deluded.

For example, I believe Al Gore really thinks he knows exactly what he is talking about, he's just that stupid.

However, as Rahm Emmanuel said, you don't want a good crisis to go to waste. So of course people will use this report to help or attack Obamacare. Agree or not with the report, it's a perfect example of how Government is going to "trump" science.

Not that the report isn't science -- but it is clear it is just ONE report, and the critics are also citing facts. It is at best an unsettled question, but under Obamacare this government agency is the one that will get to decide what your health insurance covers, so instead of being one voice in the mix that can be debated, their report and recommendation would have been the end of it.

And while I'm sure this task force is already corrupted by political considerations, I can GUARANTEE that, under Obamacare, this task force WILL be bought and paid for by someone, because it will simply have too much power to be left alone. Every insurance company will want to manipulate them, as will every advocacy group.

So even if you don't believe the task force acted under pressure from one of the groups now exploiting the study, it would be naive to believe that under Obamacare, they WON'T be.

When the government needs to save money, this panel will no doubt issue a report EXACTLY like the one just issued.

Now, for conspiracy -- I want to know if the new CBO number for the Senate plan takes into account the recommendations just made. Because if they just cut $50 billion out of the Obamacare cost by using this study, i think it proves that the study was timed for the Democrats.

6 posted on 11/19/2009 5:16:55 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Great idea.
Of course, my sister-in-law would be dead of breast cancer.
Bean counters would be happy, though—I guess.


7 posted on 11/19/2009 5:17:53 AM PST by Flintlock
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Why 40? It was put to me this way. My wife just turned 40 and had her first mammogram. The doctor wanted to get a BASE LINE picture to compare subsequent pics to. One tiny tiny dot may go unnoticed, but when compared to a clear breast will help the doc pick it out.


8 posted on 11/19/2009 6:53:24 AM PST by scoobysnak71
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Those women may be emotional and illogical, but what is the purpose of this wrap up? Is it WRONG for women in their 40s to have mammograms? You, a man, say “Yes,” and all women say “No.”


10 posted on 11/19/2009 10:18:41 AM PST by aflipflop
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