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The End of America Happens in the Middle of the Night
The Freedom Institute ^ | 11/08/2009 | Adam Murdock, M.D.

Posted on 11/08/2009 2:04:56 PM PST by opentalk

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1 posted on 11/08/2009 2:04:58 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Defund the Mother F______!!! You have the power! Use it!!!!


2 posted on 11/08/2009 2:07:20 PM PST by LIConFem (Defund the Fed. You have the power, USE IT!!)
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To: opentalk

This is not over by a long shot. Way too soon to be waving the white flag.


3 posted on 11/08/2009 2:12:01 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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This is not over by a long shot. Way too soon to be waving the white flag.

What do you suggest? The Senate will pass the bill even if they have to change the rules to do it. The RATS pay off those Senators and the weak rotten corrupt will accept it.

4 posted on 11/08/2009 2:20:22 PM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: LIConFem

“Now is the time for our voices to be heard. Now is the time to make a stand before it is too late”.

...this calls for at least one more “Tea Party” in DC! Rush, Beck, Levin et al will promote this, or should, tomorrow am. With “Grassfir”, “Freerepublic” and countless others it can be done! Fox needs to air Bachman, DeMint, Cantor etc to back it! This CAN happen!


5 posted on 11/08/2009 2:26:31 PM PST by albie
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To: opentalk

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!


6 posted on 11/08/2009 2:28:17 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Logical me
What do you suggest?

If it passes, take a page out of the dimocrats' playbook and tie it up in court. The eco-Nazis have been very sucessful at doing this -- and so can we.

7 posted on 11/08/2009 2:28:49 PM PST by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: LIConFem

I have been on same game plan yet call it “Starve the Beast”.......


8 posted on 11/08/2009 2:31:32 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Schatze

I volunteer to be the textbook case against this tyranny as long as I can have a competent lawyer defend my rights.


9 posted on 11/08/2009 2:31:32 PM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: opentalk

It is FAR from over.

There will be MULTPLE MAJOR lawsuits against this.

We can probably stop the senate from voting on it this year. Pressure must be intense.

Harry can’t be allowed to change (ie violate) the rules. We will cry foul, it will be part of any lawsuit going up to the SCourt.

The individual mandate will fall at the SCourt. Based on their logic it cannot stand.

If all else fails we go forward on the Jeffersonian option.


10 posted on 11/08/2009 2:37:58 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: usmcobra

Liberty Counsel, Alliance Defense Fund, American Center for Law and Justice, Mountain States Legal Foundation, - there are others too but these are the ones doing major work and winning almost all the time, today. Up against the ACLU winning most of the time.


11 posted on 11/08/2009 2:40:07 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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“They will say that the elderly are no longer productive members of society”

This is a “twofer.” It is no secret that the older a person gets, the more conservative they become. Our elderly come from a different era that has not been brainwashed since the cradle with socialism. The sooner this generation dies off, the sooner the government can take full control.


12 posted on 11/08/2009 2:41:12 PM PST by Toespi
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To: opentalk
These Communists will fail as they always fail. They fail because they reject Capitalism which is the key to monetary wealth and individual freedom. It is only Capitalism that has the economic strength to support a health care insurance industry. This is because the private health care insurance system is a two-tiered economic system: the policy holder service function and the investment function. Profits from the policy holder service function go to the investment function to grow new wealth. This wealth helps finance the service of the policy holders and to grow new wealth. We have seen this system, that has developed for centuries, become the most successful system on the planet; to deliver the best health care anywhere. It is this system that these insane Communists hate because it is the Capitalism they have fought since Karl Marx uttered these words: “My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism.”

On the other hand, the socialistic system only receives its wealth from the hard work of its citizens. Much of that wealth is funneled out of the system through graft and corruption. Such an economic system is one of failure because it does nothing to generate new wealth and individual effort. Such an economic system will devalue its own currency to cover the costs of big government (and corruption). It will oppress its citizenry to reduce those costs which will kill individual initiative. All these forces (and more) will kill the government that these legislative leaches put all of their energies trying to grow. They will work at their own demise, like rats feeding on the seed corn that grows a nation's future.

I call these denizens DemonRATS for good reason.

13 posted on 11/08/2009 2:43:12 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Schatze
“If it passes, take a page out of the dimocrats’ playbook and tie it up in court.”

I sense a nice class action this is against the Constitution lawsuit coming on.

14 posted on 11/08/2009 2:46:41 PM PST by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: Logical me
I do not agree

This is only the 1st touch down in a LOOOOnnng game.

It still has to pass the Senate, then the two bills have to be reconciled then pass both Houses again then pass the Courts.

Then the Democrats have to stay in control of Congress in 2010, and the White House in 2012, to avoid having the GOP repeal this.

This is a long way from done unless we surrender just because we lost the 1st battle.

15 posted on 11/08/2009 2:47:26 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
We can probably stop the senate from voting on it this year. Pressure must be intense.

I agree, what happened in August is the press started examining and exposing the bill. (Sean Hannity was great) Nancy Pelosi kept this version under wraps for that reason. My concern is it will be fast tracked again to avoid any scrutiny from the public before year end. I think if it goes into next year there is a better chance to defeat it.

16 posted on 11/08/2009 2:48:23 PM PST by opentalk
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To: Toespi
“They will say that the elderly are no longer productive members of society”

They won't be the only ones, either. The disabled will be next because they'll be called a "burden on society." This is straight from Naziville.

17 posted on 11/08/2009 3:04:16 PM PST by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: 444Flyer

I suspect the courts, right up to the SCOTUS, will rule that none of us peasants have “standing.”


18 posted on 11/08/2009 3:06:48 PM PST by hellbender
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To: MNJohnnie

Not over by a long shot is right.


19 posted on 11/08/2009 3:23:31 PM PST by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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Saturday Night Special pelosi
20 posted on 11/08/2009 3:24:57 PM PST by Docktor Doom
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