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HR 3962: the 'Charity is Only Possible Through Government Mandate Act'?!
Hype, Chains, and a Whole Lot of Fail ^ | 11-8-09 | Palm Tree Doc

Posted on 11/08/2009 12:14:56 PM PST by Palm Tree Doc

When did we as a society decide that compassion and benevolence are only possible through government mandates? Maybe it comes down to the Philosophy 101 question "are people inherently good or evil?". I and many conservatives tend to be optimists, but Pelosi knows you are inherently evil. One thing I can guarantee to you is that government is inherently wasteful.

Here's an idea: take that $1-2 trillion that was going to be used on Obamacare and give it back to the people! Incentivize charitable donations, reward people with tax breaks for helping the less fortunate, make charity more affordable for doctors through malpractice reform. This increased tax burden isn't going to help anyone.

Government needs to get out of the way and let us help ourselves and one another. I'm of the opinion that there are enough good people out there that the poor would be taken care of if the government would STOP TAXING the people and LET THEM help others. This idea that the government can function as a charitable organization is flawed. Most of the money will get lost to fraud and waste before it ever reaches the people who need it.

This Obamalosi plan is the complete opposite of what we need. The proposed plan will simply increase the tax burden on people, making it even harder to help others. It's like we're throwing up our hands and admitting that society as a whole is incapable of philanthropy of its own volition. We need the government to force us to help others through taxes and government programs. I'm not prepared to admit that society would stand idly if people were in need of assistance and society had the means to help them. I don't think that's the case at all. I think a bloated government has the peoples' hands tied. As a whole, Americans are barely able to take care of themselves. They're overburdened to the point that helping others is simply not an option for many people.

All I'm saying is this: if government would step back, scale down, and let Americans keep more of their earnings, I think Americans would take care of each other and there would be no need for the government middle man. AND I'm not blaming all of this on Obama (though he is making it worse). The people weren't all of the sudden overburdened by taxes when Obama became President. They've been that way for a long time (and it's only getting worse).

Welfare programs give people a false sense of gratification. They think their money is being used for the good of their fellow man when in all honesty, their money would go a lot further if the government would LET THEM give their money directly to charitable foundations, charity hospitals, or the family down the street that is having a hard time making ends meet. I just don't see why the government middle man is a necessity.

Even if a taxpayer went from contributing $10,000 (through taxes) to contributing $2,000 (directly to the people who need it), the people who need help would still get more out of the deal...and we'd have the added benefit of everyone having more money. That money could be spent (improving the economy), saved (improving the lending situation), or used to create jobs (improving lives and reducing the need for governmental charity). It's just so clear to me, I have a hard time understanding how anyone couldn't see the benefits. I'm not blaming everything on Obama. I'm not blaming everything on Clinton. I'm not blaming everything on Carter. I'm not even blaming everything on the trifecta as a whole! This is a long-standing issue--a fundamental error in political philosophy--that has been building on itself for decades, but Obama is pouring gasoline on the brush fire!


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: charity; healthcare; hr3962; obamacare

1 posted on 11/08/2009 12:14:56 PM PST by Palm Tree Doc
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To: Palm Tree Doc

The libDems don’t want us to go to charities, because THEY want to control us.


2 posted on 11/08/2009 12:31:24 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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I’m not sure how many people watched Face the Nation this morning. But, there was a democratic representative on Reed I believe that stated when asked about this bill passing the Senate he stated: “Our economic success depends on it”.

Doesn’t that make you just wonder what he meant by that. Sort of our country needs the money and our survival depends on it? Maybe BO told them that we needed to take control of this money for reasons other than our Health. Same as them dipping into Social security money and using it for other reasons?

I was really pissed about that comment! What do you all think he meant by that? I know this money is not going to go just for Health care, they will use it for their own purposes.


3 posted on 11/08/2009 12:40:52 PM PST by jcsjcm (American Patriot - follow the Constitution and in God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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“Our economic success depends on it”.

This is the kind of mental sickness that has infiltrated Congress. People like this need to be voted out in 2010! Either help someone run or run for an office yourself.

And we need to continue to email, fax, call, and snailmail Congress. Keep immense pressure on them. And let them know you will be campaigning against them next year. Put up websites that illustrate the foolish and irresponsibility of this Congress.

http://pushbackuntil.com!


4 posted on 11/08/2009 12:58:25 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable, and unambiguous clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: jcsjcm
I’m not sure how many people watched Face the Nation this morning. But, there was a democratic representative on Reed I believe that stated when asked about this bill passing the Senate he stated: “Our economic success depends on it”.

I have become convinced that what Harry, Nancy and Barack define as economic success is the complete re-establishment of our economic system under a centrally-planned, government run, quasi-socialized model. I say 'quasi' because it will not be a pure socialist system. Instead it will be closer to the model attempted by Mussolini with a small group of people who will continually tweak it according to their personal mythologies of economic justice.

If the Senate does not wake up and stop this dead in its tracks, we may as well drag the Constitution out of the National Archive and burn it in the street. The dream of liberty that was America will have been relegated to history. The republic will be only a memory and we will have been, as Ben Franklin said when asked what kind of government our founders have given us, unable to keep it.

5 posted on 11/08/2009 1:03:51 PM PST by newheart ("It will keep the government out of your health care decisions..." Barack Obama, July 23, 2009)
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To: Palm Tree Doc

Want more? Check out http://palmtreedoc.blogspot.com!


6 posted on 11/08/2009 1:04:52 PM PST by Palm Tree Doc
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I’m sure you heard about what happened in California with the state government withholding 10% more of everyone’s paycheck. They said “Oh, it isn’t a tax increase. We’re just keeping more of your money, but we’ll give it back to you in April!” FORCED interest-free loans to the government—BRILLIANT!


7 posted on 11/08/2009 1:04:53 PM PST by Palm Tree Doc (http://palmtreedoc.blogspot.com)
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No, I hadn’t heard about that! I try very hard to keep up with everything, but my mind tends to blow at a certain point and I need to rest up for another round. This information I missed somehow!

I am appalled at that news!


8 posted on 11/08/2009 1:14:14 PM PST by jcsjcm (American Patriot - follow the Constitution and in God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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