AS an adult during the Vietnam war, having ralatives and
tens of thousands here serving I don’t have to be told about it.
I know Vietnamese with college degrees who hid from the Cong when they were kids,
At the fall of Vietnam, over 100,000 in one lump were sent to San Diego, more later.
I sit 2 miles from the carrier, USS Midway now a museum which picked up the Americans and Vietnamese fleeing at the fall of Siagon.
You can spin your wheels till hell freezes over. you are boxed in.
Your third party Liberaltarians who want to close Gitmo, are anti war, who don’t think Iran and North Korea are a threat quote L Ron Paul are Obama’s best friend, thus your fight against the Republicans.
I support Sarah Palin who believes in taking it to the enemy. Her son just returned from a year in Iraq.
This crap that all Republicans are just the same as democrats is a spin to throw off the fact that Liberaltarials such as L Ron Paul, and his wingNuts
share more views with Obama than anyone.
San Diego has 5 Congressmen, 3 are great Conservative Republicans, Marine Col. Duncan D. Hunter, Darrel Issa who
is exposing ACORN and others before some blowhards on TV even knew what ACORN was also Bryan Bilbray who also deals with the border issues.
Don’t tell me about the border, I live 20 miles north of the largest and busiest port of entry in the world, San Diego - Tijuana
“you can spin your wheels till hell freezes over. you are boxed in.”
Oh, I see, I am dealing with the absolute, all knowing war expert in the world from a carefully positioned perch in San Diego and who sits just 2 miles from the carrier, USS Midway, the museum. I bow down to your absolute awesomeness and I will be forever ashamed of myself for engaging in discussion with such a superior human being who knows it all. I had no idea I was in the Libertarian Party until you finally told me the truth.
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SoCalPol, I’d suggest you go back and read up on our Founders, and just how they felt about maintaining standing armies, and foreign entanglements.
The world is a much more complicated place now, and there are realities that require a certain U.S. presence in the world, that the Founders perhaps could not have pondered. That I acknowledge. But, there is nothing noble about being “pro-war.” I don’t think anybody is actually “pro-war,” in favor of war, any old war for war’s sake, outside of military contractors.
Now, being in favor of specific actions, including war, due to an identifiable cause with a desired outcome that is in the national interest, is another matter. I’m in favor of our efforts in Iraq, myself. That’s a war, or it was, until that cretin of a pretender was sworn into office.
As much as you apparently detest Ron Paul, also understand that he voted in favor of military action in Afghanistan. He was in favor of numerous potential responses to the 9/11 attacks and the Islamist terror threat in general. What he did not favor, was going to war in a manner that was proscribed by the Constitution. I understand and respect that, even though I disagree due to the likely end result his clearly correct understanding would have set into motion.
Your ranting about Paul, one of the very few in Washington, DC who actually views the Constitution as anything but toilet paper, on either side of the aisle, is actually more nutty than the nuttiest stereotype you can throw at Constiutional strict constructionists, many of whom you’d no doubt call “Liberaltarian.”
I, for one, am thankful to have Dr. Paul in the House Of Representatives. He has been a rare and effective voice for Constitutionalism there for decades. I’ve admired and respected him for as long as I’ve been politically aware, and if he were my Representative, I’d be thrilled to vote for him. Long may he serve our country in that capacity. We’re all the better for it.
He’ll never be President, though. If you were capable of separating the wheat from the chaff here, you’d realize that those erstwhile “supporters” of Paul, who have you in such high dudgeon, are the ones that are anti-war, anti- every war, justifiable or not. They’re the clueless, politically unaware fools who are deserving of your scorn, and not fellow conservatives who recognize legitimate Constituional limits on war, as to how it is declared and pursued. I say they’re politically unaware, because if they actually understood the man, that he’s opposed to virtually everything else they stand for, and opposed Iraq due to Constitutional concerns, they wouldn’t be “supporters.”
There will no doubt come a time, when a President and a Congress decide to pursue military action with which you profoundly disagree. Not all Democrats and not all “liberals” (what a misnomer) are opposed to using the military opportunistically. Look to the Clinton era for guidance, since you seem to have forgotten. Or, better yet, the Johnson era.
The only thing worse than a big government perma-hawk is a big government perma-dove, imho.
Flame away.