prayer to Francis X. Seelos

[mickeyleroy]

Please everyone! Pray for Addie Ruth Halbin to Francis X. Seelos taht she is cured of all her cancers & alzheimers.

[Petronski]

I guess that’s okay because Protestants call their warts “Popes.”

Not ALL protestants, just the ones with poisonous anti-Catholic fetishes.

The vast, vast majority of Protestants do not hate the Catholic Church. It's that vanishingly-small minority who make all the noise and stink.

[ConservativeMind]

Saints are described in the following, all from the New Testament:

Who are the Saints?

One way to get at this question is to investigate which people the New Testament authors address as saints. When we do this, we discover that, overwhelmingly, living Christians on earth are called saints in the New Testament.

• An extremely valuable verse in this regard is 1 Corinthians 1:2. Here Paul calls his readers "the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours." What makes this passage valuable is that Paul defines the church of God at Corinth (the Christians at Corinth, his readers) as "those who have been sanctified (Greek - hagiazo) in Jesus Christ, saints (Greek - hagioi) by calling." There are not two groups here that he writes the letter to, the church and the saints, but one group, the church of God in Corinth, who are saints!

This passage sets the tone for the New Testament, especially Paul's letters. Living Christians at various churches or locations are called "saints":

• Ananias tells Jesus, "I have heard from many about this man [Saul of Tarsus], how much harm he did to Thy saints at Jerusalem (Acts 9:13);
   
• Peter, "came down also to the saints who lived at Lydda" (Acts 9:32);
   
• Paul tells King Agrippa that in while in Jerusalem, he locked up "many of the saints in prisons" (Acts 26:10);
   
• Paul writes to the Christians at Rome, "to all who are beloved of God in Rome, called as saints" (Rom. 1:7);
   
• He addresses his second letter to the Corinthians, "to the church of God which is at Corinth with all the saints who are throughout Achaia" (2 Cor. 1:1);
   
• He addresses several other letters, "to the saints who are at Ephesus, and who are faithful in Christ Jesus" (Eph. 1:1), "to all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi" (Phil. 1:1), "to the saints and faithful brethren in Christ who are at Colossae" (Col. 1:2);
   
• He tells the Corinthians, "All the saints greet you" (2 Co. 13:13) and the Philippians, "Greet every saint in Christ Jesus" and "All the saints greet you, especially those of Caesar's household" (Phil. 4:21-22);
   
• · He asks the Roman Christians to "Greet Philologus and Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints who are with them" (Rom. 16:15);
   
• He tells the Romans that Christians should be "contributing to the needs of the saints" (Rom. 12:13);
   
• He himself is busy readying a gift to bring to the poor Christians in Jerusalem: "I am going to Jerusalem serving the saints. For Macedonia and Achaia have been pleased to make a contribution for the poor among the saints in Jerusalem" (Rom. 15:25-26; see also Rom. 15:31; 1 Cor. 16:1-6; 2 Cor. 8:4, 9:1, 9:12);
   
• He takes the Corinthians to task for taking one another before secular courts, "Does any one of you, when he has a case against his neighbor, dare to go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints" (1 Cor. 6:1)?
   
• He gives instruction to Timothy that a true widow is one who "has washed the saints' feet" (1 Tim. 6:10);
   
• the author of the letter to the Hebrews tells his readers to "Greet all of your leaders and all the saints" (Heb. 13:24).

http://www.orlutheran.com/html/saintid.html#Anchornt

[ConservativeMind]

Although I would encourage you to find Biblical references for your opinion on who are saints, I fear you will need to go to non-Godly sources.

But I await, and I’ll even let you use the Catholic bible with the Apocrypha.

[Petronski]

But I await, and I’ll even let you use the Catholic bible with the Apocrypha.

You'll let me, eh?

LOL

[Petronski]

Saints are described in the following...

None of that Lutheran analysis is in Revelations 5:8.

[ConservativeMind]

I mention that definition in parenthesis, as you know.

And, you know, you can’t find a single justification for your view of “saints” anywhere in your own Bible.

Just pathetic.

[Petronski]

What you did was cite the admittedly-confused analysis of a Lutheran named Dr. Richard P. Bucher, who will not be able to locate sola Scriptura in the Bible.

No thanks, but I'll stick with the Church founded by Christ circa AD 33: the Catholic Church.

[Petronski]

Just pathetic.

If you're trying out a new tagline, put me down for one "yes" vote.

[ConservativeMind]

Petronski, you are NEVER able to provide any Scriptural reference for your positions. You simply seem to think that all the Scripture shown to you means nothing.

Again, we are all awaiting a Scriptural justification for what a Catholic thinks a “saint” is. Apparently you are incapable of reading even your own Bible to inform and instruct others, or even to defend Catholicism’s view.

Pathetic.

[Petronski]

Petronski, you are NEVER able to provide any Scriptural reference for your positions.

I'm still waiting for the Scriptural proof that I MUST rely on Scripture alone, rather than the Sacred Traditions and Sacred Scripture of the Church founded by Christ.

Expectations that I will limit myself to a false tradition of men (sola Scriptura) will be dashed every time.

[Petronski]

Pathetic.

That's a leaner version. I vote "yes" for that one too.

[Petronski]

You simply seem to think that all the Scripture shown to you means nothing.

I do not think that, by the way. The Scripture means everything.

It is your own personal interpretation of Scripture that means nothing to me.

[ConservativeMind]

Folks, this is what the Catholic church offers YOU - a complete inability to use even their own Bible as a justification for their screwed up positions!

Petronski is “Exhibit A” for a total lack of Scriptural proof.

He can’t even crack open a Bible or visit a website to find help.

This, thanks to the Catholic church.

[Petronski]

Folks, this is what "the Reformation" offers YOU - a complete inability to use even their own Bible as a justification for their screwed up positions, chiefly among them, sola Scriptura.

The irony must be lost on you that the tradition demanding "Scripture alone" is not found in Scripture.

Sometimes irony can by so damn ironic!