The Individual Is Sovereign

Fightin Words ^ | October 18, 2009 | Walter Scott Hudson

[Walter Scott Hudson]

Fightin Words debuts on US Web Talk Radio, featuring a candid interview with Minneapolis firefighter and paramedic John Ackerman regarding the city’s incestuous dependence on “local government aid” which continually threatens the funding of essential services and the safety of the tax payer. We examine how local government aid works, how it affects the budget process, the history of the 911 system, and how it all combines to model society’s incremental trend away from individual sovereignty toward utter dependence on the state.

Also, audio from the Can You Hear Us Now rally at the local NBC outlet in the Twin Cities and Lord Christopher Monckton’s assertion that President Obama is poised to cede US sovereignty to a “world government” only weeks away.

[Walter Scott Hudson]

If you click through, the podcast is available. Thanks, and have a nice day.

[Jeb21]

Not if Comrade Hussein has anything to say about it.

[Caesar Soze]

I haven't listened to the thing--if it's not worth writing, it's not worth hearing--but it's a stretch to claim individuals in any democracy are sovereign by any measure. Certain powers are ceded by the individual to the state through social contract, most notably the monopoly on legitimate violence. Only a constitutional crisis of a type not seen in America's history could return that right to individuals en masse. Individuals have also not had much luck representing themselves as sovereign to the community of nations; you can't print your own passport, or accredit yourself an ambassador to a foreign power.

One could argue that the People are sovereign, since the People constituted the government and reserve the right to dissolve it through force (unlikely as that is). The sovereignty of the People is vested in the state, which carries out the duties of the sovereign entity. But a sovereign individual doesn't exist in our Republic.

[JohnQ1]

“Only a constitutional crisis of a type not seen in America’s history could return that right to individuals en masse.” I gather you don’t think that we’re in such a crisis. Many of us think we are.

[Caesar Soze]

You really think we are now in a crisis surpassing the Civil War and the Revolutionary War in severity? Even in those convulsions of violence, it was understood that the state, or states, in some form, were the sovereign powers in the territories which they governed.

Do you really think you are, right now, a sovereign individual, with a monopoly on legitimate violence over the territory which you occupy, the right promulgate and enforce laws effective over your domain, to send and receive ambassadors, to enter into treaties? Do you foreswear allegiance to any other power, being a sovereign subject to no state?

It's easy to talk about sovereignty. It's a lot harder to prove that you have it.

[MurrietaMadman]

More on the 14th Amendment from
http://www.usa-the-republic.com/revenue/true_history/Chap6.html

American Sovereign OR United States citizen? Which are YOU?

You have the right to choose your status as a sovereign in America. But, not as a citizen in the United States. The 50 united States of America are republics, guaranteed a republican form of government. The United States government is a democracy. You must learn the difference! If you choose to be an American Citizen with inalienable rights secured by the constitution, then the constitution says that direct taxes must be apportioned among the states.

On the other hand, if you are a United States citizen, then you have no constitution to protect you, only your civil rights. And those civil rights do not prevent the federal government from taxing your income directly, without apportionment. This is possible because states CAN directly tax their citizens property. So if you are a U.S. citizen, you are in effect the citizen of the state of Washington D.C. And that state can tax its citizen’s property directly. Remember the definition of “State” above, from the Internal Revenue Code? A state is the District of Columbia. The IRC applies to this state and not to the 50 states.

[Walter Scott Hudson]

How ridiculous is it to not listen, then comment as though you have any idea what was said? All sovereignty starts with the individual. We cede it to the state, yes. But must never forget where it originated and, ultimately, were it must return. The thesis we get to in the podcast is that one’s choice to cede a degree of their sovereignty to another entity or individual, such as when you consent to receive medical treatment, does not fully divest you of the responsibility for the actions of the party you are turning to. In other words, you should not be able to sue your doctor for making a mistake unless you can prove he was acting in bad faith, because your choice to entrust your care to him comes with the assumed risk a mistake will be made. There are other applications as well, but I’ve restated what is already readily available in the podcast enough.