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Citizenship – what America forgot
Examiner.com ^ | 10-16-2009 | Dianna Cotter

Posted on 10/16/2009 9:06:02 AM PDT by Danae

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How is it possible that America has forgotten the basic meanings of these distinctions? How is it that we have let so basic a distinction as “Parents who are citizens of the nation and the child born on its soil” simply fall by the wayside?


The answer is both simple and terrible: A lack of education.


Historically, children in school were taught lessons from History.
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They were taught the major works that made up the histories of their Nation, be it France, Great Britain, China… children were once taught the fundamental foundational ideas that sculpted the world they were currently living in. It was called a classical education. Culturally, socially, politically they were given the history of how their world arrived to be what it was.
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In America we have shifted our focus so far from our historical and philosophical heritage, we are now barely teaching it at all.
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We stand upon the shoulders of giants, are we going to kick them in the head by allowing a Usurper to remain in the White House? He is not constrained or limited by the constitution; he has broken it already with his fundamental nature, something out of even his control. But it has freed him from the limitations and obligations the constitution demands none the less. His oath to it is meaningless, because he does not meet the basic demands of it.


We do not have a constitutional government. We know it, and the knowing of it makes it intolerable. It is up to the American people to demand that we be made whole again under the law. A crime has been and is currently being committed against us.

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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; criminal; naturalborncitizen; obama; resign; unconstitutional
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To: geologist
HOW most of us are still to comfortable to upset the apple cart; and we needed to be like our founding Fathers, who pledged their honor, their life and their wealth, in signing the Declaration of Independence. It fact most did lose their wealth and sometimes their family, and some their life. IT is a SOLEMN PLEDGE they made, indeed.

Which is why I state often, we MUST be willing to DIE for Freedom, Liberty, Justice, and the American Way. Otherwise, we're no better than the Benedict Arnolds in Congress.

Photo-shoppers . . . Can you make us some photos of the major players dressed as Benedict Arnold? After he became a traitor, not the early, younger man pictures.
21 posted on 10/16/2009 10:21:57 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Sarah Palin ...... Sarah Palin ...... Sarah Palin...... Sarah Palin...... You're My Candidate!)
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To: faucetman

I have read them all a few times... I wrote em. :)


22 posted on 10/16/2009 10:22:33 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: faucetman
Non-sexitor needs to read them

LOL! I haven't seen a Troll call to arms yet. Give 'em about 5 minutes, they'll be here...
23 posted on 10/16/2009 10:24:50 AM PDT by thecraw (God allows evil...God allowed Hussein...Lord willing he'll give us Sarah to clean up the huge mess.)
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To: Danae

We didn’t forget. It was forcibly yanked from the hands of our children in the public schools. So, in a way, we sat back and watched it happen.


24 posted on 10/16/2009 10:26:00 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: Danae

We all know that Obama will never resign. It is likely that the Judiciary will not hear any case against him.

It is up to everyone to educate as many people as we can and to see if we can get enough votes in 2010 to impeach him.

I think this rabbit hole goes far deeper than anyone can imagine. This is not a Watergate scenario of politics run a muck.

Think about Bush and the bailout - about essentially giving money to Treasury with no Congressional oversight.

Think about Cheney not calling for objections.

Think about the flubbed swearing in by Chief Justice Roberts and the do-over in private.

Do we really think that Scalia, Thomas, Roberts do not understand Vattel and the natural born Citizen clause of the Constitution.

They do not need to see a long form birth certificate to know that Obama does not meet the requirements for NBC.

There is something going on that is far deeper than just an Usurper in the office of POTUS.

I am not sure what would cause the events that we are witnessing.

They are acting out a script - who wrote the play??


25 posted on 10/16/2009 10:32:50 AM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: Lundy_s Lane II

I don’t know who wrote the play, but the puzzle pieces are starting to fall into place for those who are watching them fall.

The SCOTUS has not YET been brought a case to make a decision on. Donofrio’s case at SCOTUS was for a STAY OF THE ELECTION they declined to hear. Not a decision. There were numerous irregularities surrounding this. No doubt.

IT is up to us to force the issue.

You cannot impeach an Usurper. You must remove him. There is a mechanism that congress created for that singular purpose. Quo Warrento. THAT is what I think will ultimately remove Obama.

I still had to make the call and demand the resignation first, give the enemy of the state a more honorable way out. Of course, having no honor and a lust for power he will refuse. His ego dams him so I feel no pity whatsoever.


26 posted on 10/16/2009 10:40:28 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: faucetman

Including this one I’ve read all three. Most amusing. Now what?


27 posted on 10/16/2009 10:45:38 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Danae

Awesome bump!


28 posted on 10/16/2009 11:18:11 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Danae

Agreed that impeachment is not really the correct method to remove an Usurper that is in office. The Executive branch by itself is not going to remove BHO or convince him for the good of the country to resign.

The courts have shown no interest in taking up the case. Congress could hold hearings and remove him. But that can never happen unless “We the people” vote in enough members that will actually uphold the Constitution and not just be concerned about their own status amongst the elites.

Nothing would make me happier than see BHO forcibly removed from office.

I hope that I am wrong and Donofrio is able to get a QW action in the District Court of DC. But I imagine that there are only 3 votes on SCOTUS that would rule that a natural born Citizen is one born in the US of two citizen parents. And I expect that you couldn’t find a single Federal judge willing to make that ruling. You could get more traction if able to prove that BHO was not born in Hawaii. But if the rabbit hole is as deep as I think it might be that will never happen.

It appears now that Judge Carter is going to find a way to dismiss the case. His whole demeanor changed from the early hearings to this last one. Something was said to him that changed his outlook. We remember how Obama looked after getting his first “briefing”. What if Carter was given a “briefing”.

What I am suggesting is that the rabbit hole is very deep (a strange klein bottle - perhaps). We know that BHO has an unknown past. We know that he received support and money from many sources to get him where he is now. He seems to be a chosen one of the elite.

But why??

I am suggesting that there is a script and following the natural born Citizen portion of the Constitution is not on it. Or at least, it is not of paramount importance.

I hope that I am wrong. And that the rabbit hole can be breached and we can emerge from this land where things do not make sense.


29 posted on 10/16/2009 11:33:57 AM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: Lundy_s Lane II

Well one thing is certain, some fights are worth fighting, even if it seems utterly impossible to prevail.

The option is surrender, and that does not work for me.


30 posted on 10/16/2009 11:36:50 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Lundy_s Lane II
They are acting out a script - who wrote the play??

That's easy...


31 posted on 10/16/2009 11:48:51 AM PDT by houeto (I peered inside the Treasury's door, the entire vault was empty. We've been robbed!)
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To: Danae

Yes :) and it is the only way to really see what is going on. Plan the punches look for the responses.

There is no choice really - but to fight. The bigger they are the harder they fall.


32 posted on 10/16/2009 11:57:42 AM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: houeto

Well - I think it is a a fight of good vs. evil. Of collective Borg like existence vs. individual freedoms.


33 posted on 10/16/2009 12:00:26 PM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: Danae

“In America we have shifted our focus so far from our historical and philosophical heritage, we are now barely teaching it at all.”

Indeed, a country that loses it’s sense of history, it’s traditions,it’s philosophical underpinnings, and even it’s myths, soon loses it’s identity as a nation... like a ship without a ruder, it will falter.

Our country has been subverted in many ways:

ex-KGB Uri Bezmenov On Ideological Indoctrination Interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDDBZuheQxs

See all of Uri Bezmenov’s vedios to learn how easy it is to subvert a nation!

We are in deep u know what.

STE=Q


34 posted on 10/16/2009 5:22:27 PM PDT by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: thecraw
" which would require honor and decency. Unfortunately he possesses neither. "

That would also be most of the Democrat leaders in Washington, Congress, and the DNC, and the main fringe media.
35 posted on 10/16/2009 6:19:14 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: geologist
Jesus Christ said "

‘I know all the things you do, that you are neither hot nor cold. I wish you were one or the other! But since you are like lukewarm water, I will spit you out of my mouth!’ ” (Revelation 3:15–16).
36 posted on 10/16/2009 6:21:50 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Danae

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaN2acVMGC8


37 posted on 10/16/2009 6:28:02 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Danae

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vxnApK4O48&feature=fvw


38 posted on 10/16/2009 6:33:42 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: STE=Q

This deserves a thread all by itself. That was 1985. We now are another generation worse.

But I think the threat has morphed somewhat. But we all recognize the techniques and the goals.


39 posted on 10/16/2009 8:18:16 PM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: Danae

Danae sez

“Barack Obama must resign”

What are the Vegas odds of that happening LOL

BTW on your article, Hell yeah,Turn it Up, Right On


40 posted on 10/16/2009 8:57:55 PM PDT by roylll
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