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To: RummyChick

To my mind, the appearance of the names as Bride and Groom in the DoH index confirms to reasonable satisfaction that his parents appeared to have married. This confirms the statement in the divorce papers that they were married. According to the divorce papers, they were married in Hawaii (Maui) in February 1961.

My post was to rebut those who have claimed that even though the divorce papers stated that Obama Sr and Stanley Ann had married, that they had never married. Now we know that Obama Sr and Stanley Ann are listed as Groom and Bride in the Hawaii marriage register. The reason people claimed to doubt the marriage was that no record could be found of the marriage in Hawaiian records. Now we know there is in fact a record in Hawaiian records. People can continue to claim that she lied in the divorce papers about getting married in Hawaii, but I have seen no evidence to support that argument or even a plausible motivation for lying.

The legal problem with the marriage is that Obama Sr already had a wife in Kenya, so although they might have been married as far as authorities in Hawaii knew, in fact the purported marriage was probably void under Hawaii law.


37 posted on 10/02/2009 1:15:38 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Yes, I am one of those that was dubious about the Hawaiian Marriage. I found Obama’s reference to it quite strange.

So, there was a marriage. We don’t know when or where..but there was a marriage and it is listed in the Hawaii Index file.


39 posted on 10/02/2009 1:18:58 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
My post was to rebut those who have claimed that even though the divorce papers stated that Obama Sr and Stanley Ann had married, that they had never married. Now we know that Obama Sr and Stanley Ann are listed as Groom and Bride in the Hawaii marriage register

Or that they at least got a license. The license and the marriage certificate are two different documents. The license is "permission" the certificate is "documentation".

That said, the presence of a record of either sort is a pretty good indication that there was a marriage, valid or not.

61 posted on 10/02/2009 2:10:51 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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