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To: Churchjack

I can see how you are very prickly about the subject, but honestly I have looked very hard for evidence of a valid looking a birth certificate for the Resident, and reviewed the various pieces of material published. The only thing that looks very authentic to me is the one from Kenya. See the WND article at this link. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=105764

It looks a lot like the ones my daughters got in the UK, almost identical, where births are recorded in an actual book during a visit by the parent, just like in Kenya. The certificate my girls have from the UK verifies the existence of the entry by the registrar, just like the one from Kenya does for BO.

That thing published by Hawaii looks like it was printed on any old PC. Here it is at this link from Bartcop - where he explains how goofy the freepers are too, which you must apparently agree with: http://bartblog.bartcop.com/2009/07/23/obamas-birth-certificate-and-the-wing-nuts-version-20/

So my question is, why, if the Whtie house is so secure in the entitlement of this socialist to be elected to the office of the presidency, will they not release the actual birth certificate, which should look like this one, from a similar era in Hawaii? http://forums.blueridgenow.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1601091365/m/7451098009/r/2431033109 If you scroll down this link to a blue ridge forum, you will see a posting by nguffy with a picture of a real Hawaii birth certificate from that era. It looks like the same sort of document I have from my birth a few years earlier in CA - a print from a permanent record in long form.

So, given that it is such a controversy, and given that the dude is sitting in the Oval office, why not just do what Lou Dobbs suggests and publish the certificate, the real original one, and put all the the questions to rest?

Instead, people who look critically at the published evidence are demonized and attacked as “birthers”, whatever that is, and told by people like you to focus on real issues.

Well, if the Obama is not a natural born citizen of the US and is not entitled to be in the office of President, that is kind of a real issue is it not?

And, would it not be real simple and easy to put it to rest?

Given all the smoke, and the smokescreen to hide whatever is the truth of the issue, I can only assume that there really is fire, and the Obama is actually not a natural born citizen, having thoughtfully considered the information available.

If he really cared, and wanted to convince someone like me, he would just clarify with the truth, would he not, instead of playing games and being silent about it.

I am fully convinced that the birth and death registration book from Coastal Province Kenya, the book with the entry in it, has been filched by someone who is holding a great deal of influence now over the man, probably someone in the muslim world, given the policies that he is implementing.

I am not paranoid my friend. I believe the country is actually in very grave peril, and that a series of incredibly dangerous events are unfolding before our eyes in a pre-planned scheme to carefully and methodically destroy freedom in our country for ever. That is exactly the reason why this issue is not “ridiculous” - -it leads to the next question, which is, so who are this guy’s handlers and what do they want. No doubt you have all the answers to that one too, and there is nothing to worry about from your perspective.


52 posted on 09/25/2009 11:51:02 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: FlyingEagle
Well said. Excellent post.
55 posted on 09/25/2009 11:59:09 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Third World trickle up poverty will result in cascading Third World tyranny.)
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To: FlyingEagle
I am fully convinced that the birth and death registration book from Coastal Province Kenya, the book with the entry in it, has been filched by someone who is holding a great deal of influence now over the man, probably someone in the muslim world, given the policies that he is implementing.

I'm amazed at the lazy cowards in our government. And I hope Obama's not being blackmailed by a muslim.

59 posted on 09/26/2009 12:52:21 AM PDT by TheThinker
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To: FlyingEagle
The only thing that looks very authentic to me is the one from Kenya.

But isn't that the one a guy claimed he forged? I think there were pictures of him holding it with the same bedspread in the background. That all occurred on that amazing weekend a month or so ago, which ended so abruptly with the forgery info. I am sure someone has the details.

74 posted on 09/26/2009 4:36:24 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: FlyingEagle

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2310393/posts

which links to this:

Here are the pics:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2310393/posts

As soon as this came out, that was the last we heard of Orly’s Kenyan document.

Or did I miss something that came after this?


76 posted on 09/26/2009 4:52:41 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: FlyingEagle

Sorry, that last link is wrong. Here’s the right one:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106220


77 posted on 09/26/2009 4:55:23 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: FlyingEagle

Excellent post.

Thank you.


79 posted on 09/26/2009 6:30:28 AM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: FlyingEagle

“To: Churchjack
I can see how you are very prickly about the subject, but honestly I have looked very hard for evidence of a valid looking a birth certificate for the Resident, and reviewed the various pieces of material published. The only thing that looks very authentic to me is the one from Kenya. See the WND article at this link. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=105764

It looks a lot like the ones my daughters got in the UK, almost identical, where births are recorded in an actual book during a visit by the parent, just like in Kenya. The certificate my girls have from the UK verifies the existence of the entry by the registrar, just like the one from Kenya does for BO.

That thing published by Hawaii looks like it was printed on any old PC. Here it is at this link from Bartcop - where he explains how goofy the freepers are too, which you must apparently agree with: http://bartblog.bartcop.com/2009/07/23/obamas-birth-certificate-and-the-wing-nuts-version-20/

So my question is, why, if the Whtie house is so secure in the entitlement of this socialist to be elected to the office of the presidency, will they not release the actual birth certificate, which should look like this one, from a similar era in Hawaii? http://forums.blueridgenow.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1601091365/m/7451098009/r/2431033109 If you scroll down this link to a blue ridge forum, you will see a posting by nguffy with a picture of a real Hawaii birth certificate from that era. It looks like the same sort of document I have from my birth a few years earlier in CA - a print from a permanent record in long form.

So, given that it is such a controversy, and given that the dude is sitting in the Oval office, why not just do what Lou Dobbs suggests and publish the certificate, the real original one, and put all the the questions to rest?

Instead, people who look critically at the published evidence are demonized and attacked as “birthers”, whatever that is, and told by people like you to focus on real issues.

Well, if the Obama is not a natural born citizen of the US and is not entitled to be in the office of President, that is kind of a real issue is it not?

And, would it not be real simple and easy to put it to rest?

Given all the smoke, and the smokescreen to hide whatever is the truth of the issue, I can only assume that there really is fire, and the Obama is actually not a natural born citizen, having thoughtfully considered the information available.

If he really cared, and wanted to convince someone like me, he would just clarify with the truth, would he not, instead of playing games and being silent about it.

I am fully convinced that the birth and death registration book from Coastal Province Kenya, the book with the entry in it, has been filched by someone who is holding a great deal of influence now over the man, probably someone in the muslim world, given the policies that he is implementing.

I am not paranoid my friend. I believe the country is actually in very grave peril, and that a series of incredibly dangerous events are unfolding before our eyes in a pre-planned scheme to carefully and methodically destroy freedom in our country for ever. That is exactly the reason why this issue is not “ridiculous” - -it leads to the next question, which is, so who are this guy’s handlers and what do they want. No doubt you have all the answers to that one too, and there is nothing to worry about from your perspective.”

EXCELLENT POST. Who can argue with it?


127 posted on 09/26/2009 11:10:30 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: FlyingEagle

mark 52


167 posted on 09/26/2009 8:28:12 PM PDT by bitt (“You can’t make a weak man strong by making a strong man weak.” (Abraham Lincoln))
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