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Vanity: Digital Health Records and Armagedon
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Posted on 09/22/2009 9:53:29 PM PDT by hagendaz

I'm having a this is Armagedon moment with this electronic healthcare records thing and had to vent...Once electronic healthcare records is a reality, how compelling will the argument be to mandate rf chips in all our hands... the first chips will be inserted on a voluntary basis of course.. Perhaps 5 to 10% of the population will participate. Non-Christians only of course. EMT workers will arrive on scene, scan the victim, the screen pops up with warnings and recommendations, and lives will be saved. And I have no doubt this techonogy would save lives. The media will diligently report everytime lives are saved, and everytime people without chips die neadlessly because they were not chipped. Especially when its children that are saved with chips or children who die because they were not chipped. How will Christians (of which I am one) fight against this life saving technology with the Bible as the only real argument against it.

I'm not really a bible reader and I had always thought that the book of revelations said the mark of the beast would be put "on" the back of the hand or "on" the forehead...but it actually says...{13:16} And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark "in" their right hand, or "in" their foreheads... obviously inserting a chip in the sinus (think "Total Recall") would make it nearly impossible to remove a chip in those who might choose to do so...

Ok.. I realize this officially put me in the crack pot catagory... but I have no plans of standing on the street corner with a sign saying "The End I Near!" just yet...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: 666; bigbrother; endtimes; imnotanumber; medicalchip; theprisoner
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1 posted on 09/22/2009 9:53:30 PM PDT by hagendaz
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To: hagendaz

Forced vaccinations for swine flu in MA already? A virus that is not any more dangerous than the regular flu? Hmmm... You are not paranoid.


2 posted on 09/22/2009 9:56:35 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: hagendaz

Summon Quix he will help you through this moment and all your UFO encounters too.


3 posted on 09/22/2009 10:00:01 PM PDT by Global2010 (Strange We Can Believe In)
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To: hagendaz

The electronic health records became law with the stimulus bill, so technically it is already in effect.

I was curious about the bill for health care for kids (CHIP) to see what was in it. Does anyone know?


4 posted on 09/22/2009 10:00:29 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: hagendaz

I don’t think your concerns are far fetched at all. The multiplicity of uses for such a chip are staggering. No credit cards or cash needed if you are chipped. The pressure to require them for children will come first, then for the elderly or infirm. A sign is a sign.

I’ve always taken that to mean rejoice, Christ’s return is near.


5 posted on 09/22/2009 10:01:23 PM PDT by trubolotta
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Hundreds of thousands of Americans now carry the chip, and most of them are probably not aware of it. For at least 10 years the govt. has been paying welfare types, et al, a stipend in return for having the chips embedded in their newborn infants before checking out of the maternity hospital. These “chips” are actually tiny glass “capsules” which contain inside a selenium-based power source, a miniatureized transponder which can be tracked via satellite, and several kilobytes worth of memory. 666 is already here!


6 posted on 09/22/2009 10:04:55 PM PDT by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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To: hagendaz

Smart cards in medical bracelets are more likely. Followed by fingerprint readers and DNA readers.


7 posted on 09/22/2009 10:07:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Love me, love my cat.)
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To: hagendaz

Don’t feel bad.

You want a “The End is Near” sign and my husband wants to make me one that says “Jesus Saves.”


8 posted on 09/22/2009 10:08:54 PM PDT by AmericanGirlRising (Dear God, please heal our land. II Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Tucker39

Where is an official site (hopefully not a tinfoil wearer) for that. Anything encapsulated sounds like an unlikely power source.


9 posted on 09/22/2009 10:09:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Love me, love my cat.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I don’t know if there is an “official site” but a search for RFID will produce a good number of hits.


10 posted on 09/22/2009 10:16:12 PM PDT by trubolotta
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I’m optimistically thinking that if we refuse the chip,they’ll simply deny us their medical care,etc and be more than happy to have less people on board.-
and maybe we’ll even be totally disregarded—
I know Scripture states about buying and selling but we’ll already be bartering or sharing and getting by among all the nonchipped folk.


11 posted on 09/22/2009 10:16:37 PM PDT by catroina54
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They can’t even secure bank accounts from hackers. And the shadow government’s violation of “Joe the Plumber’s” rights shows that Democrats WILL pilfer your background to snoop and smear you in the press.

NO. N-O. NOPE.


12 posted on 09/22/2009 10:18:34 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: trubolotta
Ankle bracelet system. NOT an implant.
13 posted on 09/22/2009 10:22:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Love me, love my cat.)
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To: trubolotta
The multiplicity of uses for such a chip are staggering. No credit cards or cash needed if you are chipped. The pressure to require them for children will come first, then for the elderly or infirm. A sign is a sign.


14 posted on 09/22/2009 10:22:21 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Tucker39

I’m not a bible student either but I do recall that the Mark will also be needed to buy and sell. Not a big stretch to see that chip linked to your credit card and being the used....then preferred....then only way to buy anything.


15 posted on 09/22/2009 10:31:23 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: a fool in paradise

Very true. This from Wikipedia:

“On July 22, 2006, Reuters reported that two hackers, Newitz and Westhues, at a conference in New York City showed that they could clone the RFID signal from a human implanted RFID chip, showing that the chip is not hack-proof as was previously claimed.”

That was 2006. Don’t know about today.


16 posted on 09/22/2009 10:31:39 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: trubolotta

I doubt that any chip would not be backed up elsewhere, that your records would NOT reside in a file somewhere.

Look at the times the police use dental records to ID a body or link a rapist to a case.


17 posted on 09/22/2009 10:40:32 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Just to clarify, the chip is primarily a means of ID with very limited data storage capabilities. Hypothetically, you would use the chip to access a database. If the signal can be cloned, then the cloner can access the database, if the chip is all that is required.


18 posted on 09/22/2009 10:46:38 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: trubolotta

And what if someone is brought in suffering blunt trauma or fire injury?

Would the chip be succeptible to damage from taser?

When a person comes to an emergency center, they make have suffered some serious injury.

If the records are going to require the chip for access, then some people will have “no medical history” available.


19 posted on 09/22/2009 10:53:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I guess that is a distinct possibility. I don’t know how resistant these things are to physical or electrical damage. But I’ll never know because I will never accept one.


20 posted on 09/22/2009 11:03:39 PM PDT by trubolotta
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