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Is Obama Sparking a Second “Revolt of the Admirals”?
The Nav Log ^ | 9/22/09 | ip568@charter.net

Posted on 09/22/2009 10:37:50 AM PDT by pabianice

“The Revolt of the Admirals” is a name given to an episode that took place in the late 1940s in which several US Navy admirals and high-ranking civilian officials publicly disagreed with the president and the Secretary of Defense’s plans to disband the US Marine Corps and most of the US Navy and give their missions to the new US Air Force, which proposed preserving the peace strictly with its new strategic international bomber force of B-36 bombers carrying nuclear weapons (which were still huge, the average fission bomb weighing 10,000 pounds). This decision climaxed in 1949 when many officers, including the Chief of Naval Operations Louis E. Denfeld and Secretary of the Navy John L. Sullivan, were forced to resign. In April, 1949, the newly laid USS United States (CVA-58) was hurriedly cut into pieces by workers sent from the Air Force so it could never be completed and thus compete with the Air Force for aviation assets. The United States was to have been the lead ship in a new class of “super carriers” (which subsequently became the Forrestal Class).

Upon the cancelation of USS United States and its quick destruction by Air Force proponents, Sullivan and a number of high-ranking admirals resigned in protest. A few days later, Johnson announced that the aviation assets of the US Marine Corps would be transferred to the Air Force, a plan quickly dropped after Congress had a fit at the news. The Navy struck back with a study claiming the B-36 only program was seriously flawed and was a white elephant pushed by unscrupulous contractors and politicians with financial interests in the builder, Convair. As things continued to heat up, Congressional hearings were held. In the end, several admirals were exonerated of various charges and the Navy and Marine Corps continued as before.

Now, sixty years later, we come to the current administration. In Afghanistan, we are losing and the generals on the ground are being plain in their request for more troops. General Stanley McChrystal, the commanding general, has requested more troops to fight the war. In response, President Obama has basically voted “present,” saying that he’ll hold off deciding whether to add more U.S. troops to the war in Afghanistan, even as top Congressional Democrats try to force Obama to simply surrender and flee Afghanistan as they and their supporters demanded during the 2008 presidential election.

“You have to get the strategy right and then make the determinations about resources,” Obama said at the White House following a meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper. “I am going to take a very deliberate process in making those decisions” he said. The needed number of additional troops runs from 10,000 to 45,000. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs ADM Mike Mullen is, for the moment, playing it safe. He spoke approvingly of the administration’s “deliberative, intellectually honest” process of determining the next steps in Afghanistan. Meanwhile, public support for what Obama last year called “the real war against terrorism” is fading. Senator John Kerry chimed in, saying, “No amount of money, no rise in troop levels, and no clever metrics will matter if the mission is ill-conceived.” Kerry met with the enemy in France during the Vietnam War while he was still an officer in the US Naval Reserve. (His original 1972 Navy discharge – reported to be Under other than Honorable Conditions – has never been made public. In 1978, Jimmy Carter had him issued an Honorable Discharge under Carter’s policy of giving blanket amnesty to those who committed crimes while in government service during the Vietnam War.)

Today we learn that, on the heels of GEN McChrystal being ordered not to submit a request for as many as 45,000 additional troops, he may resign if his request is not honored. In Kabul, some of McChrystal's staff say they don't understand why Obama called Afghanistan a "war of necessity" but still hasn't given them the resources they need. High-ranking officers have reportedly said that McChrystal will resign before he'd let the administration fail to support him with the troops he needs.

The entire process followed by the military in implementing a change of course in Afghanistan is far different, and bizarrely so, from the process it followed in changing strategy in Iraq.

In March, 2009, GEN David McKiernan was fired and replaced by GEN McChrystal, who took command in June. General McChrystal's report was delivered to Obama at the end of August, almost three months after he took command. And yet now in the last half of September, the decision on additional forces has been ordered not delivered to the administration. That the Obama Administration is hostile to the military – with Obama promising to create a competing Civilian National Defense Organiziation “just as well-funded, well-supported, and well-armed as the military” – is no secret. That he’d betray our military and the country as part of a plan to “transform” the country is dawning on a lot of people who thought otherwise. That our flag officers have the guts to stage another “revolt” against the intolerable gives one hope at a time when it is sorely needed.

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KEYWORDS: 0bama; 0bamaisfailing; givemeliberty; idiocracy; keepthechange; livefreeordie; newnukesnow; wakeupamerica
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1 posted on 09/22/2009 10:37:50 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

‘Zero” pushing for a revolution period!


2 posted on 09/22/2009 10:39:14 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: pabianice

a bunch of huge choppers just passed over my moms house in se ok.....


3 posted on 09/22/2009 10:39:14 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: pabianice

Is his name really spelled “McChrystal” and not “McCrystal”?


4 posted on 09/22/2009 10:40:53 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Who is Kenneth Gladney? (Don't forget to bring your cameras))
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To: pabianice
This revolt of the Admirals is following on the heals of the already started revolt of the people.


912: AMERICA AWAKENS IN 2009

5 posted on 09/22/2009 10:42:35 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: pabianice

Judge Carter is/was a Marine who was seriously wounded in Vietnam.


6 posted on 09/22/2009 10:42:53 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: Jeff Head

Great picture! This is the first time I have seen this.


7 posted on 09/22/2009 10:45:21 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: Travis McGee

Ping.


8 posted on 09/22/2009 10:46:24 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: pabianice
¶2: A few days later, Johnson announced that the aviation assets of the US Marine Corps would be transferred to the Air Force, a plan quickly dropped after Congress had a fit at the news.

First thought was that couldn't be LBJ. Search shows that is Louis A Johnson, SecDef under Truman.

9 posted on 09/22/2009 10:46:52 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: pabianice

Recently-ordained folk hero Harry Truman got royally bitch-slapped. You bees next, 0bama.....


10 posted on 09/22/2009 10:47:04 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Love my country. Hate my government./Barack Obama: An authentic "African American.")
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To: Frantzie

Thanks. Go to the site:

http://www.jeffhead.com/americaawakes.htm

If you click on that picture there it brings up a higher res version you can right click on and save to your disk.

Please pass that site around, it puts the lie to the MSM and RINOs low balling how many people were there on 912.


11 posted on 09/22/2009 10:49:11 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Kartographer

The minute we said we wouldn’t go into Pakistan for Bin Laden...we were denying ourselves an “end”. This still continues today. If they have no real desire to take Bin Laden and the Taliban guys down...fine, pack up and leave Afghanistan. It’s one or the other...but you can’t have both.


12 posted on 09/22/2009 10:52:31 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: dalebert

4 flew over my house in South Jersey last evening !


13 posted on 09/22/2009 10:53:35 AM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: pabianice
The Fringe Media may still be supporting Obama, but the CIA and the military are taking a very close look at their CIC...and the Generals are obviously are shocked by what they are learning.

I would suspect that there may be much more to this matter with McChrystal than what appears in the news.

14 posted on 09/22/2009 10:54:19 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (For good judgment ask...What would Obama do? Then do the opposite!)
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To: pepsionice

ping for later


15 posted on 09/22/2009 10:55:20 AM PDT by Batman11 (Obama will dispatch skittle $hitting unicorns around the world to bring peace and prosperity to all!)
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To: pabianice
In terms of the overall security of the country, 0bama's push for "a nuclear weapon free world" is what ought to truly trigger an "Admiral's Revolt".

The demise of F-22 production, which could have continued for the same $2 billion that the Feds borrowed to extend the "Cash for Clunkers" program is another example of the stupidity of the 0bama administration.

16 posted on 09/22/2009 10:56:48 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: pabianice
More bombs less bullets is the solution for rubblestan. It makes no sense to build a stable ISLAMIC country. We already have Saudi Arabia and they are the ones espousing Wahhabi nutjobs, and keep gasoline prices high.

Its not the mountains or the opium or the tribes...its the Religion of islam

Kill islam first.

17 posted on 09/22/2009 10:59:27 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: pabianice
That he’d betray our military and the country as part of a plan to “transform” the country is dawning on a lot of people who thought otherwise.

"Transform" being Democommiespeak for "destroy".

18 posted on 09/22/2009 10:59:55 AM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: Jeff Head

Wow, that sent tingles up my arms. Gee was that too much like Chrissy. But it really did.
AMAZING pictures. Luv ‘em.


19 posted on 09/22/2009 11:07:48 AM PDT by mel
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To: pabianice

I think this is exactly what obozo wants. Get rid of the flag officers to replace them with dupes, minions and cronies. Flag officers are a threat to him. In spite of having clawed their way to the top of the heap by skill, qualification, endurance and stepping through a political minefield ...most do have some greater measure of Character, Principal, Ethics and alliegance ot the Constitution than obozo can tolerate.

All part of the obozo takeover plan as far as I am concerned. Weaken and disgust the military so they are demoralized, leaderless, disgusted and no longer a threat to anyone.


20 posted on 09/22/2009 11:10:59 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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