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An E-mail I got from a Socialist Friend
Daryl L. Hunter - Perspective ^ | 09-14-2009 | Daryl L. Hunter

Posted on 09/14/2009 3:47:08 AM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter

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To: Daryl L.Hunter
I get into my socialist National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the socialist roads build by the socialist local, state, and federal departments of transportation

And here's Pedro and the family headed to the socialist Che Guevara Clinic for some Fidelcare in his socialist Cuban Highway Traffic Safety Commissariat approved truck. This is what the socialist, ACORN-loving demohacks aspire to.

21 posted on 09/14/2009 4:49:05 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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To: Daryl L.Hunter
Judging by the author's parting shot, ("I then post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right."), his point is that government is not, contrary to FReepers notions, inept but highly beneficial.

Conservatives do believe that government is inept and inefficient and often intrusive but our political stance is grounded in our understanding that the test is not whether the government is acting beneficiently but whether it is acting constitutionally. When a government acts inefficiently, intrusively, tyrannically or, yes even socialisticlly, these are but symptoms of their repugnance to the constitution.

Conservatives do not say that the delivery of the mail by the federal government is wrong because it is explicitly provided for in the Constitution. That the author cites this as an example of government efficiency, or at least beneficence and convenience, is to shoot himself in the foot. Likewise, conservatives recognize the Constitution explicitly provides for the federal government to provide for the common defense. We think the government has done so by its contribution to the Internet. We do not delude ourselves that the miracle of the Internet as it exists in my home today is the product of government action, nor even the action of Al Gore, we know that is the product of countless individual innovators and entrepreneurs. The sort of people the Constitution told Congress to provide for by giving them patents to encourage their personal industry.

Police powers are not socialist and they are properly defined under the Constitution as being a state and local responsibility. The author is confused and his confusion is compounded by his insistence on conflating Socialism with regulation. It is further compounded by his willfully ignoring the Constitution's provisions for federal division of responsibility with the states.

The author mentions OSHA. I have been confronted with OSHA in many businesses and the experiences were never satisfactory. There was one occasion, however, which occurred not in business but in the saddle high in the mountains of Montana far removed from any edifice or even any paved road where I espied a portable toilet. In response to my inquiries about why in the world of portable toilet would be placed so deep in the wilderness, I was told by my companion who was a local rancher, "OSHA made them put it there for the Cowboys to shit in. They shit in the woods and pee against the outside of it."

Maybe the author is correct, there should be no end to the beneficence of our federal government.


22 posted on 09/14/2009 5:02:36 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Daryl L.Hunter
Judging by the examples that your friend has selected, he/she is clearly either a warmonger or at minimum an enthusiastic supporter of the military-industrial complex. How does he/she reconcile that with touchy-feely socialism?

Pay attention to a few of these tidbits:

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by socialist electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy.

According to the US Department of Energy web site, "The Department of Energy (DOE) has one of the richest and most diverse histories in the Federal Government. Although only in existence for a quarter century, the Department traces its lineage to the Manhattan Project and beyond.".

After that, I turned on the socialist radio to one of the FCC regulated channels to hear what the socialist National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like...

According to the NOAA web site, "Our National Weather Service has its roots in Nineteenth Century science and policy. The Army Surgeon General began a coordinated attempt to obtain weather observations from Army posts as early as 1814, followed by a national network of observers reporting telegraphically to the Smithsonian in the late 1840's and 1850's, and then the establishment of a true National weather observation network under the Army Signal Corps in 1870."

using socialist satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration

According to the NASA web site, "NASA's birth was directly related to the pressures of national defense. ... During the late 1940s, the Department of Defense pursued research and rocketry and upper atmospheric sciences as a means of assuring American leadership in technology. ... etc. etc.".

US Naval Observatory

Hmmm... Wonder whether the Naval Observatory might have something to do with the, um, US Navy. Enough said there

set out to work on the socialist roads build by the socialist local, state, and federal departments of transportation

Sounds like a reference to the National Defense Highway System, doesn't it?Former General Dwight Eisenhower sure knew how to build strategic military infrastructure, didn't he?

socialist GPS navigation technology developed by the United States Department of Defense

Did that say, United States Department of Defense? 'Nuff said there...

I then get on my computer and use the socialist internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration

Let's see - I wonder whether the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration might have anything to do with the military. That "Defense" word just seems to keep popping up, doesn't it? Etc. etc.

It seems that your friend can trace the origin of so many of these amazing things not to some foolish American dalliance with "socialism", but rather to the US Military and its role in the Defense of the nation as outlined in the Constitution.

So, why is your friend such a warmonger?

23 posted on 09/14/2009 5:26:36 AM PDT by Zeppo (Save the cheerleader, save the world...)
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To: Daryl L.Hunter
GPS, NOAA, satellites, the Internet, our interstate highway system, etc., were developed for the defense of the USA - a completely legitimate function of our Federal gov’t. If we receive social benefits as a result of these systems, so much the better. But their primary function is for defense & national security. If we have a war or national crisis, some or all of these things may not be available to the public. Socialism turned off, abruptly!
24 posted on 09/14/2009 5:29:22 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Daryl L.Hunter

Your friend ‘forgot’ the part about the things that are at the very core of a conservatives’ time and daily effort -

“...I took care of my FAMILY; I went to my JOB and worked HARD to earn for my FAMILY...”

Only the socialists have all day to spend doing self-indulgent crap while being funded by OTHER people’s money.


25 posted on 09/14/2009 6:07:31 AM PDT by J40000
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To: Daryl L.Hunter

The FDA is one of the most corrupt agencies in existence. Note that 90% of the agencies cited didn’t create anything, they just regulate. The rest use tools, equipment and vehicles produced by private industry. Talk about wearing blinders...


26 posted on 09/14/2009 7:26:54 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: RoadKingSE
And here's Pedro and the family headed to the socialist Che Guevara Clinic for some Fidelcare in his socialist Cuban Highway Traffic Safety Commissariat approved truck. This is what the socialist, ACORN-loving demohacks aspire to.

Excellent!

27 posted on 09/14/2009 1:31:39 PM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter (Barack Obama is the Grim Reaper)
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To: reasonisfaith
This person shares a deep ignorance about socialism with millions of other people, many of whom owe their condition to the public school system.

Ignorance of human nature feeds this mentality, My most read article is about this - American Socialism on my Citizens For A Freer America Website.

28 posted on 09/14/2009 1:38:25 PM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter (Barack Obama is the Grim Reaper)
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To: Zeppo
So, why is your friend such a warmonger?

It's not that she is a warmonger but maybe because advocates for socialism must have to believe in a strong military in order to keep their own citizens towing the party line.

29 posted on 09/14/2009 1:45:53 PM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter (Barack Obama is the Grim Reaper)
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To: screaminsunshine
My best buddy is the same way. It drives me crazy. Sharing. That is exactly what he says. He wnt from a painting company with 18 ee’s to now doing odd jobs. He still can not see it.

There are none blinder than those who refuse to see.

30 posted on 09/14/2009 1:48:47 PM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter (Barack Obama is the Grim Reaper)
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To: Daryl L.Hunter; All
Send him this back:

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock (Bought froma capitalist) powered by socialist electricity generated by the public power (For Profit)- monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy.

I then took a shower (Built by a capitalist carpenter)in the socialist clean water provided by the municipal water utility (For a profit).

After that, I turned on the socialist radio (Developed by an evil capitalist without tax money, built by an evil capitalist, sold to you by an evil capitalist) to one of the FCC regulated channels to hear what the socialist (Incorrect) National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (a bureaucratic nightmare) determined the weather was going to be like using socialist satellites designed (by capitalists), built (by capitalists), and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (a bureaucratic nightmare). I watched this while eating my breakfast of socialist US Department of Agriculture inspected food (Grown by capitalists) and taking the socialist drugs (Developed by capitalists FOR PROFIT) which have been determined as safe by the Food and Drug Administration .

At the appropriate time as kept accurate by the socialist National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory (built to accurately aim missles at Socialist nuclear Weapons), I get into my socialist National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile (Desinged, built sold by Capitalists) and set out to work on the socialist roads build by the socialist local, state, and federal departments of transportation (with Capitalist tax money), possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the socialist Environmental Protection Agency (as determined by Eco-communists), using socialist legal tender (NO SUCH THING!) issued by the Federal Reserve Bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the socialist US Postal Service (ya got me there!!!) and drop the kids off at the socialist (Correction-Locally run) public school. If I get lost, I can use my socialist GPS navigation technology developed by the United States Department of Defense (Designed, built, and run, FOR PROFIT by Capitalist Ivan Getting!) and made available to the public in 1996 by President Bill Clinton (YOU LIE!!! GPS was made publicly available by the evil, hated RONALDUS MAXIMUS REAGAN in 1983!!) who issued a policy directive declaring socialist GPS to be a dual-use military/civilian system to be managed as a national socialist asset. (YOU LIE! See KAL007,Challenger)

31 posted on 09/14/2009 2:14:29 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: tcrlaf

I will do that.


32 posted on 09/15/2009 5:43:57 AM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter (Barack Obama is the Grim Reaper)
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To: listenhillary
“Government is good at one thing: It knows how to break your legs, hand you a crutch, and say, ‘See, if it weren’t for the government, you wouldn’t be able to walk.’” -Harry Browne

Great Example


33 posted on 09/15/2009 5:53:32 AM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter (Barack Obama is the Grim Reaper)
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To: Daryl L.Hunter
Um, the 'warmonger' quip was tongue-in-cheek, intended to evoke a reaction from clueless socialists who foolishly see themselves as pure and driven by completely harmless, altruistic motives (as contrasted with those evil capitalists and international Zionist bankers and puppy-killing Republican environment-rapists), and who therefore typically evidence little support for the military (except when it is being used to effect social engineering, for example, normalizing gays' status in society by pushing for acceptance of gays in the military)... You will be hard pressed to find a truthful socialist who will admit that destruction of freedom and repression of the public by force is a prerequisite for its widespread adoption.

If you're lucky, when you confront a socialist with the military origins of government programs that they tout as evidence of the beneficence of government control and largesse, you will be treated to the spectacle of seeing the socialist's head explode (so you might want to stand far enough away that you avoid most of the splatter)...

34 posted on 09/15/2009 7:24:29 AM PDT by Zeppo (Save the cheerleader, save the world...)
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