Posted on 09/08/2009 9:17:43 AM PDT by big black dog
We were taught that the people in the US were being taxed and didn't have a say in the matter. Hence the slogan: "No taxation without representation"
This coming from a people who slaughtered Indians like they were bison and continued having slavery even after representation because of taxation.
Basically a white man's slogan. There abouts.
Obviously the French didn't like the English much at that time either. But let's be honest, when have they ever?
So, the Americans (read: white Americans) wanted rid of the English, which of course they were in no position to demand or effectuate, but the French really didn't want the British (although, coming from Scotland I was constantly reminded that it was really the English...we Scots were busy being oppressed ourselves...although it will be obvious that at that time our own ruling classes had sold us down the Clyde, which by pure chance is the exact same river they sold our industry down in the early 1980's as well) having the Americas either. So they teamed up with a bunch of US terrorists led by George Washington and rid America of the English. I mean British.
This is what I was taught at primary school in a nutshell.
The Brits are the worst ally (Canada and Australia excepted) except for the French and everyone else.
Facts, dates, locations, etc, are all the same...motives and reasons are determined by the one telling the story. I’m sure this is exactly how many Brits viewed it, while we Americans, viewed it differently.
We won. Who cares?
I remember one UK history text referencing the “Police Action” of 1812...
There was some kind of a street shooting of kids waiting for a bus outside of a Detroit School withing the last two years. Does it have to be exactly like Columbine to count?
I just read “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky last month, a heinous book if there ever was one.
In one part of the book, he equated the French Resistance directly with the Nazis (moral relativism)
In another part, he talked about how the Declaration of Independence was not only NOT a great and inspirational document, but was treasonous, ungrateful and deliberately deceitful (the contemporary British viewpoint)
He made the assertion it was so, because it only enumerated the negatives associated with British rule, but deliberately left out the positives.
That may indeed be so (especially to the British at the time) but I have never seen a divorce assessment that included all the postive things in a decayed and injurious relationship.

This British soldier, Major Sean Birchall, died in Afghanistan, along with dozens of other British soldiers, fighting because America was attacked. Would you care to discuss with his mother why "Brits are the worst ally".
Find me a country that doesn’t have an ugly history. Mankind was, and is, nuts.
The difference between America and the rest is that this country has allowed for a better standard of living for its citizens than any other in human history.
It isn't taught.
I was raised in England during that time, and I never recalled any US history taught (I was 12 years old when I left the UK). If you were a school kid in England, at that time, you had to look in an encyclopedia to know anything about 1776, Yorktown, Valley Forge, etc.
My school chums knew about some American history things, mostly cowboy/cavalry and Indian battles, even bits and pieces of the Civil War, but nothing on the American Revolution, and you can forget about the War of 1812.
Very good, thanks.
I suppose one could ask the late and thoroughly unlamented Admiral Co'burn and Sir Edward Pakenham about that...
Don't quite think they'd agree...heh heh heh.
Note a full reading of the cited text includes the phrase “except for the French and everyone else”.
The Crown has had an original copy of THIS since 1776:
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm
I doubt that they distributed it amongst their “other” enterprises
“We won. Who cares?”
That should become known as “Obama Syndrome”...
I’ve considered what it would have been like had the US Americans not successfully rid US America of the British. Might not have been so bad. Might not have had to have that nasty civil war, and by the time of Victoria the queen was what she is now - an advisor but essentially non political. Slavery would have gone away when the English said it was time for it to go away.
On the other hand, the US Americans would never have stopped agitating for separation, just like the freegan leftists now won’t ever shut up about communism, so in the end a death struggle would probably have resulted, if not in the 1770s, then sometime later. At least the revolution was conducted with pre-Napoleanic weaponry.
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