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The Obama Back-Peddle On Health Care? Not Believing It
Flopping Aces ^ | 09-03-09 | Curt

Posted on 09/03/2009 11:29:11 AM PDT by Starman417

Obama and friends are taking a play from the Hillary Clinton playbook....proposing a "trigger" Socialist takeover of health care instead of a single payer system from the start:

My colleague Dana Bash and I have learned from a source, each one of us, that this White House right now is very quietly in serious conversations with Republican Senator Olympia Snowe, a key moderate.

She is basically the last Republican out of those gang of six senators who have been negotiating, really the last Republican that has an open line to this White House right now.

What we're hearing that she's talking about with White House staff is sort of a scaled-back bill that would focus on insurance reforms that both sides could agree to, but would not have a full public option, instead, would have a so-called trigger. What that means in layman's terms is basically that the insurance companies would have a couple of years to make some dramatic changes.

If they do not make those changes, then a public option would be triggered. So, it would be used down the road. They would hope that this would appease liberals by saying it's not completely off the table. And the big hope is that this could bring along another moderate Republican, like maybe Susan Collins of Maine, some conservative Democrats, like Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu in the Senate, who don't want a public option, but would sort of potentially be open to a trigger like this.

Nancy is saying no way:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she is firmly committed to passing a comprehensive healthcare reform bill with a public insurance option despite signals from top White House aides that the president may forge another path to gain bipartisan approval. “We can’t pass a bill without a public option,” Pelosi told reporters after speaking at a healthcare event hosted by the San Francisco Chamber of Commerce in her home district.

Which means there is no coincidence that Obama will host the two nimrods of Congress just before his speech next week:

And I'm also told that next Tuesday afternoon, the president, the day before the speech, is going to host Speaker Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid here at the White House Tuesday afternoon to kind of run through the final details with them.

Yup...he will lay down his backdoor plan and they will go along with it. No question about it.

Yup...he will lay down his backdoor plan and they will go along with it. No question about it. But Karl at Protein Wisdom thinks there could be a silver lining in this new tactic:

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhofascism; healthcare; obama; obamacare; socialism; socializedmedicine; trigger

1 posted on 09/03/2009 11:29:12 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

NO! NO! NO! If this report is accurate, a “trigger” is just semantics to a back-door public option!!!


2 posted on 09/03/2009 11:33:55 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Starman417

“Obama and friends”

If it isn’t clear Obama is in the pocket of insurance companies by now to this man, nothing will change him. A greenspanian libertarian useful idiot mind.

“Socialism”. Whatever.


3 posted on 09/03/2009 11:34:45 AM PDT by Shermy (Space For Rent)
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To: Josa

“”If this report is accurate, a “trigger” is just semantics to a back-door public option!!!””

Oh Noz! Is that worse than the fascist option?


4 posted on 09/03/2009 11:35:41 AM PDT by Shermy (Space For Rent)
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To: Starman417
Bait and Switch: he'll be able to announce something that sounds like a compromise - a trigger that might never happen... except that we all know there will be a wink,wink,nudge,nudge thing with the Dem leadership since it will undoubtedly be a hair trigger that will go off shortly after Snowe votes for it.

But since it's a "compromise", the entire move will be designed to garner new public support and back down the attacks... just long enough to gain passage.

5 posted on 09/03/2009 11:45:27 AM PDT by alancarp (Obama: treat the unborn with AT LEAST as much respect as you do terrorists!!)
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so, if the insurance companies don’t have a plan out there in two years for every American at every age for a $50/month premium that covers aromatherapy and hangnail removal, the Public Option will be “triggered” quickly leading to single payer


6 posted on 09/03/2009 11:48:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Pretty much. They're just waiting for all of us to get tired and go to bed on all the issues we're staying up to monitor. When we nod off, we're toast. They think the public that really does have a dog in this fight isn't getting paid to watch them. Eventually, we have to give our attention to our careers and families. That's the moment they're waiting for. It will keep coming back in small increments until it's a fete accompli.
7 posted on 09/03/2009 12:11:28 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Um..m. That's “fait accompli.” I guess, theoretically, it could be a fete accompli for them, but let's not go there.
8 posted on 09/03/2009 12:16:43 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Starman417

Castro used to say, “Three steps forward; one step back”. He seized power and tightened the controls gradually with some concessions which were later withdrawn.


9 posted on 09/03/2009 1:11:16 PM PDT by darth
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To: Starman417; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; AuntB; All
Obama and friends are taking a play from the Hillary Clinton playbook....proposing a "trigger"

Not just the Hillary playbook. Remember, Kennedy/McCain/Bush had a "trigger" for amnesty in 2007.

10 posted on 09/03/2009 3:14:53 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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“Not just the Hillary playbook. Remember, Kennedy/McCain/Bush had a “trigger” for amnesty in 2007. “

You’re doggone right they did!


11 posted on 09/03/2009 3:21:43 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Starman417
My colleague Dana Bash and I have learned from a source, each one of us, that this White House right now is very quietly in serious conversations with Republican Senator Olympia Snowe, a key moderate.

How ludicrous is this? The Dems have overwhelming control of Congress. They can pass this without a single Rep vote. Why the "negotiations" with Snowe? Note: That is a rhetorical question. The answer is obvious.

12 posted on 09/03/2009 3:25:17 PM PDT by kabar
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To: alancarp

There is no need for a compromise. The Dems control the House 255-178 with two vacancies and the Senate 57-40-2 (ind but caucus with Dems) with one vacant.


13 posted on 09/03/2009 3:35:46 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Starman417
All of this talk about public option vs. trigger option is just a page right out of the Democratic playbook. Distract us so that we are concentrated on ONE small part of a bill. They don't want us to think about the larger body of the bill and what it implicates. IMO, the bill is designed to create union jobs, shore up union retirement plans and funnel more funds to ACORN. The SEIU will gain significant membership when all their new free "services" for everyone are instituted.
14 posted on 09/09/2009 4:15:02 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (no more "till death do us part" public workers!)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

Why would healthy, young people want to buy health insurance when there is a “previously existing conditions” clause? They will just wait till they get sick. That, of course, is why they have to be forced to get the insurance.


15 posted on 09/09/2009 4:19:03 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (no more "till death do us part" public workers!)
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To: Starman417
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16 posted on 09/09/2009 8:55:32 AM PDT by davidlachnicht ("IF WE ARE ALL TO BE TARGETS, THEN WE ALL MUST BE SOLDIERS.")
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