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Notes From A Cop (Is a Revolution or Civil War On The Horizon?)
E-Mail | August 28, 2009 | Deputy Scott Wagner

Posted on 08/28/2009 6:00:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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21 posted on 08/28/2009 6:39:41 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This sounds like something put out by the Southern Poverty Law Center. They are such paranoid liars.. Every cop I know voted FOR Obama.
22 posted on 08/28/2009 6:44:56 PM PDT by GOPJ (Giving money to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys-ORourke)
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To: cherry

I think you may be wrong. I have been on a county SWAT team for 16 years, 2 months ago we did a search warrant with an ATF agent ( to go Fed. on a dirt bag. Before the raid I told him that when Obama sent him to my house for my guns he better have his ducks in a row. He just laughed and said he would call in sick that day. You see alot of us Gummit workers as you call us are near retirement and know that we will be “civies” also so my interest are much like yours. As I told a lib friend of mine just remember that when the crap hits the fan we own all the guns. PS:most street officers I know are very conservative it’s some of the Brass that are touchy-feely read libs. We live in the real world.


23 posted on 08/28/2009 6:53:55 PM PDT by medic12
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To: mamelukesabre

The question for your cop buddies, my cop buddies, and all LEOs generally is this: Whose side will you be on?

Should the worst happen, which no one wants, people won’t be interested in the answer to any other question.


24 posted on 08/28/2009 6:55:39 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Talisker

Fully automatic weapons are largely useless. Even our military usually doesn’t use full auto even though they can - it is simply too inaccurate.


25 posted on 08/28/2009 6:57:44 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: American Silver Eagle
Civil War 2

And how many divisions do the "Progressives" have?

Seems to me that all that's required is the US Military in response to illegal orders from the muzzie in chief rounds up the socialists and puts them on a plane to Cuba.

Provisional military government for 6 months, then new elections for all congressional seats and the WH, incumbents need not apply.

Only tax paying citizens and veterans are enfranchised in the new Republic.

All amendments other than the original bill of rights are repealed.

"Dueling" legalized within the Washington DC limits.

Problem solved

26 posted on 08/28/2009 7:00:24 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Hussein Baraka Mook Kebba)
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To: achilles2000
Fully automatic weapons are largely useless.

Two thoughts:

1. That's why the government is so absolutely paranoid about allowing any civilian to have an automatic weapon.

2. CQB

27 posted on 08/28/2009 7:05:13 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It depends upon how far the government is willing to go to establish a totalitarian state. Unless the military is ready to ignore orders by the Commander-in-Chief to make war on its own citizens, there is little that can be done as far as a revolution goes. He who has the guns makes the rules. The same goes for secession. Just as all tyrannical governments depend upon a strong military force to remain in power, so will the statists that run America.
28 posted on 08/28/2009 7:26:30 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex

>>”He who has the guns makes the rules. The same goes for secession. Just as all tyrannical governments depend upon a strong military force to remain in power, so will the statists that run America.”<<

Huh? This isn’t Britain:

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


29 posted on 08/28/2009 7:30:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $1 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: Talisker
What does CQB stand for? ObamaCare Jokes Obama Jokes
30 posted on 08/28/2009 7:48:07 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In the unlikely case of armed revolt, most cops, soldiers and veterans will be on the side of LIBERTY.

The commies in DC must know this, but if they don't they're in for a real surprise.

All armed. Trained. Disciplined.

The American Patriots can field a revolutionary army of 20 million men.

Easy.

31 posted on 08/28/2009 9:43:32 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: achilles2000

They will say what side they will like to join. But I think we all know cops will simply bug out and lay low in the initial stages of the ugliness. They aren’t gonna risk their lives if they think it’s a job for the national guard or the army.


32 posted on 08/28/2009 10:19:20 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perhaps I did not make myself clear. The military has the fire power, civilians don’t. The axiom, “he who has the guns makes the rules,” was used figuratively. I’m surprised that you did not understand that.


33 posted on 08/28/2009 10:21:53 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: dila813

The sticks are red on the map of course, and the cities blue. The Obama/Waxman/Schumer gang are doing everything they can to hasten rural cleansing precisely because of the military importance of the sticks. So called “food safety” and animal identification legislation, and court rulings favoring obscure fish over water rights are to get small traditional, Jeffersonian, farmers off the land and to impoverish small towns.

All the fuss over health care is theater for popular consumption. After Obama controls the countryside he gets whatever health care (death care) program he wants with a stroke of the pen.


34 posted on 08/28/2009 10:34:42 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: Nosterrex
We are one of the few societies where almost anyone can own a rifle, shotgun or pistol freely. If by “firepower” you mean tanks, ICBMs, combat aircraft, artillery, heavy machine guns, cruise missiles and things like that, you are assuredly correct: The military has those and the civilians don't. However, as we saw in Iraq, Vietnam, Afghanistan, the Banana Republics, etc., insurgents don't fight toe-to-toe with a well-equipped military force unless they're suicidal. They ambush, set off explosives, sabotage, pick off collaborators, local leaders and individual soldiers, etc. One guerrilla ties down 3-8 troops. Well, if 20-50+ million citizens become partisans, there aren't enough soldiers in the whole wide world to deal with them, not counting those servicemembers that switch to the citizen's side.
35 posted on 08/28/2009 10:38:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $1 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: Thunder90
Half of that report is tin foil.

Is it?
36 posted on 08/28/2009 11:16:41 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
if 20-50+ million citizens become partisans

The important thing is that we know who they are. We know where they live and work. Union Halls for example? These are very soft targets. What is impossible for them is they do not know who we are. Best to keep it that way and the powder dry.
37 posted on 08/28/2009 11:26:48 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Talisker

I don’t think it’s paranoia - it’s the symbolism, which is what drives much of the left’s anti-gun hysteria. “Assault” rifles are a good example. Feinstein and her staff basically just set up criteria that would apply to scary looking guns.

What is CQB?


38 posted on 08/29/2009 6:48:12 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for this e-mail. Would not suprise me if the tensions have been very high, but not to the extent I have seen in this e-mail.


39 posted on 08/29/2009 7:35:49 AM PDT by Biggirl ("God Is Great, Beer Is Good, People Are Crazy"-Billy Currington :)=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

....Plus most in the armed forces are center-right.


40 posted on 08/29/2009 7:37:57 AM PDT by Biggirl ("God Is Great, Beer Is Good, People Are Crazy"-Billy Currington :)=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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