UPDATED2: No, Obama's VA did NOT pull so-called 'Death Book' from website

WashingtonExaminer.com ^ | 08/24/09 | David Freddoso

[444Flyer]

"Obama Administration: Depressed and Disabled Veterans Should Consider Foregoing Medical Care"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2319899/posts

"VA Death Book author connected to Soros"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/232883/posts

[444Flyer]

Ping

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Anyone old enough (besides me) to remember General Douglas MacArthur's speech at West Point in May 1962?

Well the Obama Administration has a question about that speech.

"What did that old guy say? Old soldiers never die; they just fade away.. duty, honor, country? Yeah well, we're in charge now. Old soldiers never seem to die; they just get in the way."

[trumandogz]

When did the VA frst start using “Your Life, Your Choices?”

[TomGuy]

Per Megyn Kelly on FoxNews this morning, it was still up on the website just moment before she interview Senator Specter about VA issues.

She told Specter it was still on the website, that they had just checked. It did have a disclaimer that it was ‘being revised’.

[counterpunch]

President 0.J. wants to kill the old as quickly as he can because they have the greatest wealth per capita to seize and redistribute upon their death.

Plus the elderly vote went for McCain.

[444Flyer]

“Obama Administration: Depressed and Disabled Veterans Should Consider Foregoing Medical Care”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2319899/posts

[444Flyer]

“VA Death Book author connected to Soros”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2323883/posts

[Bob]

When did the VA frst start using “Your Life, Your Choices?”

According to the article, 1997.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

wrt to the origin of "VHA HANDBOOK 1004" et seq, here is proof positive that it was conceived and put into motion long before Bush became Pres.... by April 2000, sufficient had been accomplished to begin recruiting for the "study"..... note the date of publication, and then wonder just how long this was in effect before Bush zapped it! J Med Ethics. 2006 August; 32(8): 444–449. "With the approval of the Veterans Administration Pittsburgh Healthcare System and University of Pittsburgh Institutional Review Boards, we recruited study participants between April 2000 and October 2002 from a large, urban, outpatient primary care clinic in the Veterans Administration Pittsburgh Healthcare System. Physicians, certified registered nurse practitioners and physician assistants were eligible for participation if they were primary care providers at the clinic. Patients were eligible if they were [gt-or-equal, slanted]60 years, ambulatory, able to speak and read English, residing in the community, receiving outpatient care from the Veterans Administration, not cognitively impaired and not acutely ill (ie, not hospitalised or in obvious distress)." http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2563385

[444Flyer]

"...Spokeswoman Katie Roberts informs me that although the "Your Life, Your Choices" booklet was removed this morning from the URL I had linked to, there has been no policy change by VA. The document removed this morning had simply been hosted in the wrong place all along, on a regional part of the VA website. Links to that document should have pointed to the same document on a different part of va.gov, and it is just a coincidence that the regional copy was removed on the same day that news segments on the document aired on cable television."

I seeeeeeeeee......

[444Flyer]

1997 is what I understand also.

[444Flyer]

All Gave Some, Some Gave All

[trumandogz]

Thanks.

So, this is not an invention of the Obama Administration and we all do realize that almost every hospital in the country currently has end of life counseling for patients who are terminal and their families?

[444Flyer]

Freedom isn't Free

[Oldexpat]

Just to piss them all off..I am disposing of my living will.
Screw them. No medical power of attorney for me. I will hang on to the last stroke of the resuscitator. We need to stick together on this.

[Palladin]

So, Tammy Duckworth is a big fat liar?

[TomGuy]

Watch Tammy Duckworth squirm as Chris Wallace confronts her about the website and other VA issues on FNS yesterday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxDBM4ujLg

[444Flyer]

“...we all do realize that almost every hospital in the country currently has end of life counseling for patients who are terminal and for their families?”

This is different, this is preying on and manipulating our wounded Vets:

“We were supposed to be beyond any debate over “death panels” when it comes to health care reform. But now the administration is scrambling to explain whether and why it has been referring physicians to use an educational document for end-of-life planning that strongly hints at the worthlessness of life when its quality is diminished by, for example, being wheelchair-bound or having bladder control problems.”

[444Flyer]

"So sorry Sir, you've been denied medical care."