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And Then They Came For My IRA(Zer0 needs it to continue his blatant rape of America)
Canada Free Press ^ | 8/24/09 | Doug Patton

Posted on 08/24/2009 8:10:17 AM PDT by bestintxas

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i have placed my money into my retirement for 40 years and damn if I will allow someone to pilfer it now.

It is mine and no one else's.

1 posted on 08/24/2009 8:10:17 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

the inmates have taken over the ASYLUM.

Be very afraid.


2 posted on 08/24/2009 8:15:31 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: bestintxas

What I suspect they will do is try to “means test” social security turning it into just another welfare program. I can just hear it now...”Do you think Bill Gates should get social security?” And tools like Gates will stand up and say, “I don’t need it... therefore you don’t need it either.” Pfffttt.


3 posted on 08/24/2009 8:18:31 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: bestintxas

I can think of no better way to provoke law-abiding, self sufficient Americans, the quiet half of the country, to violence.


4 posted on 08/24/2009 8:18:35 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: bestintxas

Oh yeah, suppose tomorrow you woke up in a national emergency and all 401(k)s were frozen and being transferred into the government’s social security coffers. What steps would you actually take?

I’d love to hear it. What are you alone going to do about it?


5 posted on 08/24/2009 8:19:34 AM PDT by johnnycap
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To: bestintxas

If they want a War this would be a good way to start it.


6 posted on 08/24/2009 8:19:43 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: geologist

I’ve heard estimates that there is about $5 trillion of value of everyone’s IRA or 401K type accounts.

Remember that all of that money is tax exempt until people withdraw money at retirement.

So, with pools of money in the trillions that haven’t been taxed, how long before Obamabots, looking at their trillion dollar deficits, think up ways to start taxing everyone’s retirement savings?

If it happens, it will be all about “fairness” and all that. They will say the money will be taxed in the same way as other income, etc. They might say that it’s unfair that higher income people have been able to save so much money on their own, when we have so many poor grappling with poverty, yadda, yadda, yadda.

It would be sadly ironic if, after years of the government regulations encouraging saving for retirement, that they would change them. This could even make more senior citizens, esp. baby boomer age as they get older, even more dependent on a Social Security system which is going to go bankrupt.


7 posted on 08/24/2009 8:23:23 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Oh yeah, suppose tomorrow you woke up in a national emergency and all 401(k)s were frozen and being transferred into the government’s social security coffers. What steps would you actually take? I’d love to hear it. What are you alone going to do about it?

What I'm going to do, is no longer be alone.

The rest, we figure out one day at a time.

8 posted on 08/24/2009 8:24:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: skeeter
I guess that would be a way to provoke the crisis they want to give them the excuse to impose marshal law.

They could then impose all of the Stalinist laws that they really want; civilian fire arms confiscation, travel bans, suspension of free elections, suspension of habeas corpus, suspension of free speech.

the Democralps would have full control of government for the foreseeable future.

9 posted on 08/24/2009 8:29:14 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Lazamataz
The rest, we figure out one day at a time.

Thas right!

10 posted on 08/24/2009 8:35:34 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrat - The new Party of National Socialism. Pelosi and Kosmas - founding members.)
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To: bestintxas

Didn’t Clinton contemplate a a “one-time” 15% tax on all 401k/IRA accounts?


11 posted on 08/24/2009 8:36:19 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrat - The new Party of National Socialism. Pelosi and Kosmas - founding members.)
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What are you alone going to do about it?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

What tens of thousands of Americans have already done.

You can get started here:

http://www.sovereignsociety.com/ASSETPROTECTION/tabid/385/Default.aspx


12 posted on 08/24/2009 8:37:58 AM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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"...”Do you think Bill Gates should get social security?” And tools like Gates will stand up and say, “I don’t need it... therefore you don’t need it either.” Pfffttt."

The answer to this question and others like it should always be;
"I think that Bill Gates should get back whatever he put in, because that's his money. It is neither illegal, immoral or irresponsible to be wealthy. And if Bill Gates wants to donate his social security money to the government then that's his right, and his alone".

13 posted on 08/24/2009 8:38:00 AM PDT by jiminycricket000
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To: Dilbert San Diego
We do think of them as persons we can discuss these events/action with and create change. WRONG1 They could care less about reasonable discussion. They are set on their agenda and will not be diverted as long as they have the power and the votes in the legislative bodies.

We may well be in a situation where with ill intent and desire to control ALL THINGS they will make laws granting lifetime office to a dictator. Power hungry people like we are looking at now know no boundaries. Believe it!

And all the unimaginable things that it could/will mean. Who is to stop it?

Not so ... they are adamant and militant about it.

14 posted on 08/24/2009 8:41:12 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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You are correct sir. Laura D’Andrea Tyson was the mastermind of taxing Employer contributions to 401k’s as Current Income and a retroactive 15% on them to make up for them not being taxed in the first place. Now she is an Obama economic adviser. Google “Mrs. Tyson’s Fried Economics” from National Review.


15 posted on 08/24/2009 8:41:59 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: bestintxas
Socialist tyrants always promise to lift everyone up to a higher level in order to achieve “equality,...

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill

16 posted on 08/24/2009 8:42:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples' money...M. Thatcher)
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To: Pontiac
I'm sure thats what they would like to happen.

What actually happens would likely be different.

17 posted on 08/24/2009 8:44:23 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: bestintxas
For years I have suffered ridicule for refusing to invest in 401K or IRA accounts preferring to invest in gold, guns and ground (acreage).

It pains me to realize that what was once seen as "paranoia" may now be "prophetic."

18 posted on 08/24/2009 8:50:29 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Our Last Best Hope: REPEAL THE 16th AMENDMENT!)
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To: Pontiac

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19 posted on 08/24/2009 8:50:55 AM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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To: skeeter

E.X.A.C.T.L.Y......my husband’s response said it all....the Dems should be VERY afraid of touching people’s retirement plans....


20 posted on 08/24/2009 8:52:26 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Tell everyone, DEMS are the RACISTS...they created the KKK and Jim Crow Laws...to start)
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