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1 posted on 08/19/2009 4:44:40 PM PDT by Starman417
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2 posted on 08/19/2009 4:48:53 PM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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3 posted on 08/19/2009 4:49:12 PM PDT by Wardenclyffe
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If this Health Care Reform is made law we'll be cooked alright.

Congressman Weiner says that health care is not a commodity. If health care is not a commodity then doctors and nurses are not free and sovereign citizens. If health care is a right then health care workers are slaves who must serve that right for the sick and injured. If health care is a basic human right, as Weiner says, then no health care worker can refuse to provide it, for any reason, because that would violate the patient's rights.

That means that the health care providers have no individual rights. The collective right of the people to get health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set their fees, their hours or change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it supersedes the individual rights of others.

It may not be stated in any of the bills that patient's rights to care supersede a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights are always adjudicated in the courts. The legislation simply establishes the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the patient's collective right to care.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. His view is the underlying philosophy of the entire Health Care Reform legislation the House and Senate have put forth. Consider the setting up of community watch dogs to monitor various health parameters of citizens in the Senate version of the bill. Look at pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS

Even the citizens themselves will be subject to state set regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the human right of universal health care. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights?

4 posted on 08/19/2009 4:51:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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The only glaring flaw in the analogy is that the aliens had large brains.


6 posted on 08/19/2009 4:54:37 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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“We are legion, for we are many.”

Never in my life did I ever think a sitting holder of the Presidency would think himself a ‘partner’ with God.

Thinking of the Dem and 0bama makes me sick. And, no. I don’t mean actually sick. I may refuse to ever be sick again actually.


7 posted on 08/19/2009 4:57:20 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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11 posted on 08/19/2009 5:19:36 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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“To Serve Man is a cookbook!” he shouted.

Sorry to be a feminist quibbler, but my recollection is that the person who utters this famous line was a woman.

(Who was in love with the fellow who was taking that last space ride, etc.)


12 posted on 08/19/2009 9:04:08 PM PDT by jocon307
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