Dealers Souring on Clunker Program--> Government Not Paying on Time

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel/ The Lid ^ | 8/15/09 | The Lid

[Shellybenoit]

This is the same government that wants to take over your health care. Many auto dealers are getting upset that the government is being very slow paying them back the money they laid out for the Cash for Clunkers program.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is reporting that some dealerships are owed more than $100,000 resulting in difficulty making payroll:

It [Cash for Clunkers] has generated the most showroom traffic they have had in months while at the same time heaping unease, frustration and worry onto the industry's worst-ever downturn.

As of the close of business Friday, there was talk in the industry that some dealers are considering pulling out of the clunkers program altogether.

"A number of dealers have floated $100,000 to upwards of $1 million or more" on the clunkers program, said Bill Sepic, president of the Wisconsin Automobile & Truck Dealers Association.

[clueless_expert]

Is there any data available that would show which dealers have/haven't been getting reimbursed? Specifically, I'm curious to see the ratio of GM dealerships reimbursed to non-GM dealerships reimbursed. Government/Union-owned GM would fare much better if some of its competition was removed. If only there was a way to add to GM's market share...

C_E

[17th Miss Regt]

While I can agree with your point that almost everything the government tries to run is poorly run at best and that most of the efforts may be classified as failures, the jury is still out on whether the government can do a better job in health care. So I will resort to a clever and rather subtle argument to counter your argument that we should not give the government a chance to run health care:

You racist!

[wombtotomb]

*snort*

[wombtotomb]

I vote for larry the cable guy to be the healthcare czar!!! Go LARRY!! Woo Hoo!

[freebilly]

But the BEST was when the Mustang Ranch, at the time, the best known, most famous legal brothel in NV, was taken over by the feds, because the owner, Joe Conforte was charged with tax evasion and fled the country. It was a business that was generating millions in profits, but after the feds took over, it began losing money, and eventually the government closed it down, unable to make money selling sex. This is probably the first time that’s happened in all of the history of mankind.

Actually, the government figured we were all getting screwed enough by them, so we didn't need anymore sex from anywhere else....

[When do we get liberated?]

Being in subprime auto finance I can guarantee you I would have dealers cursing me and vowing to never talk to me again if I took 3 weeks to pay. A dealership is a cash flow machine and waiting on 100,000’s of thousands of dollars will crunch the biggest dealers.

[Pantera]

I have to wonder if these dealers will ever see anything other than an iou from the govt.

[taxtruth]

I hope the dealers get stiffed on the deal just to teach them not to make deals with the devil.Can you imagine government healthcare?

[PaleoBob]

I hope the dealers get stiffed on the deal just to teach them not to make deals with the devil.Can you imagine government healthcare?

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I’m with you. Anyone who throws in with Comrade Obamsky deserves to end up in the gulag he is building.

[taxtruth]

People need to be shone a little more government pain to wake up and this is good medicine for the dealers thinking there was a candy store in Washington.There is no candy and no store but just a bunch of lying,cheating/stealing/defrauding politicians and the federal reserve printing up phony money backed via nothing.What a ponzi scheme/fraud!

[SC DOC]

Welcome to the govenment glacial speed payment system. I have put up with it for decades. Even with an electronically filed “clean claim” for Medicare, it often takes months to get paid. One of the many reasons why doctors hate Medicare (in addition to the fact that they pay about 70% what private insurance pays for the same procedure)

[Freedom_Isn't_Free]

These idiots in government don't understand how crucial CASH FLOW is to a private business.

Just let one of these dealerships be a day late making their tax deposit because the government hasn't paid them yet!

[CommerceComet]

And they think they should take over health care To hell with them

I'm sure this is just an aberration. I mean look how well the government manages the post office. (/sarcasm)

[dajeeps]

Give them some time... the printing press is overloaded these days. /sarc

[anymouse]

Rudy: Charlie, I broke my back getting you this deal. You know that...
Charlie: Fifty bucks never killed anybody.
Rudy: [pressing] You're not going to find another deal like this anywhere in town.
Charlie: Fifty bucks never killed anybody.
Rudy: [pleading] We shook hands on this... a deal's a deal.
Charlie: Fifty bucks never...
Rudy: [throws up his hands in mock disgust] Okay Charlie, you got it, you win - I'll see what I can do... But I'm telling ya, my boss sees these figures, he's going to have a stroke.
[exits]
Charlie: [scoffs] What's he trying to pull? Fifty bucks never killed anybody.
Charlie: [Luke bursts in, red face and clutching his chest - Charlie panics] Okay, it's a deal, it's a deal! I'll sign! I'll sign!

[Rudy is planning to break into a presidential broadcast with a commercial]
Jeff: For Christ's sake, we're *uckin' with the President of the United States.
Rudy: He *ucks with us, doesn't he?

[When do we get liberated?]

Thats not throwing in with the government. The dealers are independent businessmen and if you owned a dealership, you would not allow your customers to shop down the street where all the rat trades are worth 4500.
None of the dealers got in bed with the government.

[Joan Kerrey]

Phone rings.
Dealer: Ajax Chrysler

Bureaucrat: We didn't get your recap report on the clunkers program yet as required by section 10, page 101 of the participation agreement. As you must be aware this is required by law.

Dealer: I didn't participate so you'll be getting no recap from us.

Bureaucrat: Our records show that in July alone you sold 89 cars under the program and have billed us for $400,500.

Dealer: If you know this and have my billing why in the hell do you 1. need the information that you have in front of you again and 2. why haven't you paid me the $400,000 I need to pay my bills.

Bureaucrat: We'll need the recap and analysis reports in order to begin processing payment. I just noticed that you're not on the list of approved clunker dealers list. I'll also need to see the authorization forms that were sent to you in June allowing your dealership to participate.
Form 11-45B-5689G. We'll consider overlooking that form if you'll just forward the recap and analysis reports.

Dealer: This is extortion. How dare you...

Bureaucrat: Please don't make accusations to me. If you like I'll put on my supervisor, Rahm Emanuel and you can be abusive to him. I don't have to listen to your rudeness.

Rahm: This is Mr. Emanuel. I've listened to this conversation and before we continue it I have only one thing to say. Send the F***ing reports in or we'll break you F***ing kneecaps.

Dealer: They've just be sent sir.

[PaleoBob]

Thats not throwing in with the government. The dealers are independent businessmen and if you owned a dealership, you would not allow your customers to shop down the street where all the rat trades are worth 4500.
None of the dealers got in bed with the government.

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That’s crazy. Just a few months ago when the list of which dealers survived the federal cut came out it revealed that MANY were among the biggest donors to Obamsky and the CommieRat Party. Big businesses have been subsidizing this scum, and thus currying favor with them, for decades.

So now they’re not getting their kickback? Well boo hoo for them.