Posted on 08/12/2009 1:59:22 PM PDT by Slapshot68
"Not content to let General Motors grab all the shiny happy tree-huggy headlines today with its 230 mpg claim for the Chevy Volt in city operation, the gang manning the NissanEVs Twitter account needled GM's range-extended EV messiah, tweeting:
Nissan Leaf = 367 mpg, no tailpipe, and no gas required. Oh yeah, and it'll be affordable too!"
(Excerpt) Read more at autoblog.com ...
Ain't competition a bitch, Barry?
Perhaps it should’ve been called the Dolt?
Unlike most people, I’m actually a fan of electric cars (no tree-hugging sentiments here; to me, they’re a big middle finger at Chavez and Ahmadinejad, since we can run them on domestic coal, nuclear, etc), and even I’m sick of fake mpg numbers like that. You could come up with the figure that a plug-in hybrid Space Shuttle Crawler would get a billion miles a gallon, if you just assume that it drives a hundred billion miles on electricity for every one mile it drives on gasoline. I.e., you can get whatever number you want that way. It’s garbage.
Idiots.
How can you have a MPG (miles per gallon) if no gasoline or liquid is used. There is no gallon or volume of liquid involved. If you use electricity then you need a whole new measurement. Period.
There isn’t enough thermal energy in one gallon of gasoline to move a 3500 pound vehicle 230 miles.
Agreed, the MPG claim is a bit meaningless. I just love that it trumps the Volt which is a Government Motors offering.
Chevy batteries have to be replaced every 18,000 miles. Cost: $ 24,000. Yeah, they got a real winner there...
Stop asking stupid questions!
“Chevy batteries have to be replaced every 18,000 miles. Cost: $ 24,000. Yeah, they got a real winner there...”
Interesting. Wonder what the battery life is on the Leaf.
How about if a car uses magnetism for propulsion? Then, it would be Miles per Gauss.
That’s not actually correct. They’re warrantying them for 10 years/150,000 miles. And the current price for the pack is, according to GM, “thousands less” than $10,000. (i.e., $7-8k). And 10+ years from now it should be notably less.
Still not chump change, mind you. You buy an expensive car, expect to maintain an expensive car.
“How about if a car uses magnetism for propulsion? Then, it would be Miles per Gauss.”
Or Teslas! And if you had Tesla Motors make a car that ran on magnetism, they could call it the Tesla Tesla. And it could get 100 miles per Tesla.
Does this mean we can all go back to our SUV’s? One tree hugger getting 367 MPG ought to offset all the extra fuel burned by like 10 Suburbans.
Also, can we now call Prius owners gas guzzling wastrels? I always wanted to do that.
1,000 miles per gallon.
And conspiracy theorists ask "Who Killed the Electric Car?"
Their statement isn’t actually accurate (see above). But as for the Leaf, per your question, Nissan is looking at battery pack rental as being the primary sale approach (unlike the Volt, where they want to sell the battery with the car). With the Leaf, if the pack dies, you get a new one at no charge. It’s a $10,000 pack (presently; less in the future, obviously). They expect to be able to lease it for a price that the lease payments plus the cost of electricity will be less than the average person spends on gas per month. We’ll see about that.
WE might be their soon.
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