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British Statesman Warns America of Government Healthcare Horrors
NewsReal Blog ^ | August 10, 2009 | Matthew Vadum

Posted on 08/10/2009 11:27:10 AM PDT by HorowitzianConservative

Member of European Parliament Daniel Hannan warned Americans of the dangers of government-run healthcare on the Friday edition of the “Glenn Beck Program.”

Hannan, a Conservative who represents Southeast England in the European Parliament, said of the British National Health Service (NHS), “The most striking thing about it is that you are very often sent to the back of the queue.”

Beck noted the lengthy waiting times for care under Britain’s socialist National Health Service (NHS). These figures were provided by the BBC on May 27, 2009:

*cataract surgery – 8 months *hip replacement – 11 months *knee replacement – 12 months *slipped disc – 5 months *hernia repair – 5 months

Although to be fair, Hannan said, the NHS provides “not so bad” care with children but “the worst thing to be is elderly under a system like ours.” Said Hannan:

I could tell you horror stories about elderly people left starving in wards, and the amazing thing is, why do we put up with it? The reason we put up with it for so long is because it has become such a huge system. It’s got such an enormous bureaucracy based around it. We have 1.4 million people employed by the National Health Service.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; danielhannan; deathcare; glennbeck; govthealthcare; hawking; healthcare; healthcontrol; nhs; obamacare; plantationheakthcare; socializedmedicine; stephenhawking; ukhealthcare; universalhealthcare; vadum; wreckinghealthcare
Fascinating.
1 posted on 08/10/2009 11:27:13 AM PDT by HorowitzianConservative
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To: HorowitzianConservative

I’;m from the UK and I have been telling anyone and everyone about the national health care

when I meet those on the left I tell them the horrors and how it IS NOT FREE

sad part is that they still would rather beleive a guy who popped out of nowhere and tells them it is great and who has never lived it against folks like me who has lived it and seen the horrors including the death of folks due to the national health care


2 posted on 08/10/2009 11:30:18 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman -- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: HorowitzianConservative
The most shocking statement:

"The NHS is the third largest employer on the planet after the Red Army in Communist China and the Indian national railways. “Most of those 1.4 million people are administrators,” Hannan said.

"And the existence of that huge electoral bloc makes it impossible to get rid of the system," Hannan said.

3 posted on 08/10/2009 11:30:33 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: HorowitzianConservative

“be quiet and get out of the way so we can make this mess”....BHO [/s]


4 posted on 08/10/2009 11:30:47 AM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: manc

I’ve got relatives in England and Canada, but I’ve never talked to them about their opinions on their healthcare. My husband has an American cousin that has lived in England for 11 years. He loves socialism as that was his lifestyle while he was growing up in the States—government “freebies”. He claims that people like you don’t exist. He says everyone loves the NHS and that no politician will come out against it. Daniel Hannan seems to be speaking out.


5 posted on 08/10/2009 11:35:22 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: HorowitzianConservative
All the warnings are falling on deaf ears. Either:

The arrogant ruling elites are convinced that they are so much smarter than anyone else, they don't need to listen because they CAN'T be WRONG, or;

They have an agenda that requires the government control such a huge portion of people's lives and the national GDP.

What was that definition of insanity that was thrown agaisnt Bush 42 during his re-election attempt . . .

Insanity is when you keep trying the same thing that has failed before (or in this case, everywhere else), and expect different results.

6 posted on 08/10/2009 11:35:42 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: loveliberty2

Who needs THIS????!!!!... we are already incubating a dictatorship here. I wish Americans would take their heads out of their a^%$#!!!


7 posted on 08/10/2009 11:42:30 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: HorowitzianConservative; Quiller
"They have an agenda that requires the government control such a huge portion of people's lives and the national GDP."

Bingo!! By any other name, it is tyranny.

The American idea, as expressed in the Declaration and structured into a government, was that "We, the People" bind down the government "by the chains of the Constitution." (Jefferson) Article V of that Constitution was intended to assure that constitutional limits on power could be changed only by the express act of the people, through the amendment process prescribed therein.

This attempted power grab is the Executive and Legislative branches combining to thwart the people's rights to limit the size and scope of government by expanding its spending powers ("taking" power) under guise of a health care "emergency," and it should not stand.

8 posted on 08/10/2009 12:38:57 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Death rates for various cancers are also considerably higher in the UK than in the US.


9 posted on 08/10/2009 12:41:20 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: beaversmom

there’s plenty who hate the national health care believe me

I’ve wrote in past posts about the disgusting national health in the UK and you can go and read them

one of the biggest lies or mis-truths the left make is that they say wow you have free health care

er not, we pay for it through our high taxes and VAT.

if it is so good why does the UK have a much higher rate of death, cancer death, lack of medicene for patients and why are more and more folk going private.

for anyone and it is usually the latte drinking guardian readers and the BBC watches who say the UK health care is great then ask why more and more people are fed up of it.

I have been affected first hand and seen people die because of it.
things like my mother waiting nearly 11 months for her cancer results inthat time her husband dies from cancer
waiting lists to see a GP
wAITING WEEKS TO SEE A doc
hospitals closing

the list is endless but you can read my past posts

I’ve been through the American one and the UK one
who do you want to believe for you lefty’s
the champagne socialists who love the Govt and do not live under it like bozo or someone who is working class and has lived under it?


10 posted on 08/10/2009 1:26:29 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman -- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: beaversmom

now you can say to him that we do exist and many of us do


11 posted on 08/10/2009 1:27:21 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman -- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc
Thanks for your info.

I’ve been through the American one and the UK one who do you want to believe for you lefty’s the champagne socialists who love the Govt and do not live under it like bozo or someone who is working class and has lived under it?

Oh, I already know what I believe about socialism. Basically was just being sarcastic about my husband's cousin claiming that everyone in England loves it.

I don't know why I've never asked my relatives about it. I should. I'm sure my mom lived under it. She escaped in 1959, but was only 21 and I doubt she was thinking about it in the terms we think about it. It was just the way things were for her. Then she was under the doctors with our American military system :)

12 posted on 08/10/2009 2:48:06 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

my 78 year old mother will be over soon if all goes well.

she is traveling alone so I hope she gets help on and off the plane but she grew up in the second world war and remembers how the Germans were bombing our city

manchester
she remembers when health care came in and it was a good idea but the monster grew and grew out of control and this is the problem and bozo knows it

we will never get rid of it once it is in place

I come from a big city so the wait time is much longer but if a town hall meeting is going on then I will ask my mam if she wants to say something to the crowd.

I grew up with this health care and so I knew no better, it was when I came here and found I never had to wait for weeks to see a Doc.
things like that surprised me and then I saw how bad health care was back in England

your mother did the right thing getting away
After I left the service I saw how the country I gave so many years for had changed
no go areas for English folk
health care down the drain
hospitals closing
crime horrible, I took my wife and she saw on her first night out in Salford another girl in the pub came out with some glass sticking out of her face.

she had been potted which is a normal thing to happen.

I could rant on but I won’t bore you but my kids are doing great here and they know how lucky they are to be in America and have the chances they do

what grated me and yes I said something was when I became American I saw people after the ceremony throw their flags?(they were given) into the bin
some never put their hand on heart

and it really grates me when those on the left put down this country.
These spoilt idiots need to go and live over in another country and then see how lucky they were


13 posted on 08/10/2009 3:12:12 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman -- end racism end affirmative action)
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