Posted on 08/05/2009 6:52:24 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
Most were liberty ships. I do remeber a CB going down river. Have to ask pop. Most of them stored grain. Mostly razor blades now I guess. It was quite a sight when I was a kid.
In fact, I can remember going there in around 1969 for a bilogy class and some were still there. Not like they were. They were being recycled. Greenpeace would be proud.
Decomming Lincoln would be a disaster. Personally I'd like to see them turn out two conventionals just for caution. If we get attacked we can get them back on line faster and they also a much faster training period for the crew. As I understand it the Navy did away with the BT {Boiler Tech} rating.
There’s a small street in Grassy Point that goes to the beach with a few houses on it, right on the river. When you get to the bottom after winding around, there is a HUGE anchor in the circle!
I'd say AMERICA and Kennedy were conventional for several reasons. One could have been projected availability of trained reactor operators. You can train a conventional Snipe pretty quick. Most are standing second and third level watches before a Nuke ever sees a ship much less qualifies on it.
Another thing would be cost as we had the WW2 & Korea war debt. America was awarded under Ike's term and the keel laid right before JFK was sworn in. Coventionals were cheaper to build, easier and quicker to train the Snipes, and DFM was fairly cheap.
That said I remember seeing some piping blueprints in Engineering Central when I was tracing down some piping that had CVN {slash} CVA-66 and nobody knew why.
BTW some carriers had customizing done. The AMERICA was the only Sonar Dome carier.
Until the late 80’s nucs went to a conventional A school then on to NNPS and prototype. There were already a dozen nuc subs and a couple nuc cruisers, so the nuc pipeline was already established. Of course, a carrier requires hundreds of nucs, not just dozens, so they had to pump out a lot of trainees.
I trained at the mock up of the Enterprise engineroom in Idaho. It was up and running for years before the Enterprise became operational. Half of my class went to the Enterprise at the start of the 1990 overhaul. The other half went to the new construction George Washington. There were only two of us, out of about 200, that went to submarines. Ironically, I went to a boat in post shakedown availability, so the other sub guy was the only person in the entire class that did not end up in Newport News Shipyard.
63 years as an active duty Squid would take an unusual person that's for certain :>} I read up on Rickover some to refresh my memory. He was still active when I was in 76-80. I knew an Engineering Officer or two with about the same personality traits. But when it hit the fan they were the one you wanted sitting in Central because you could bet your life that their knowledge was right.
We had a MPA who could rattle off Auxiliary equipment valve numbers and locations off the top of his head. I mean this guy even knew exact physical locations as in reach over the top of valve number whatever. He even knew the chill water system piping and even when I left after 4 years I was still learning it.
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If you mean post-WWII carriers, that may be true, I'm not sure. But Several of the Essex and Improved Essex Class carriers had sonar. I spent 4 years on the USS Intrepid, CVS-11, and I can personally assure you that she had a dome. I spent the longest 3 weeks of my life at Quonset Point, R.I. down in that dome replacing Transducers on the SQS-23C array. It's really, really dark and close and stinky down there. Plus the dome plugs leaked like crazy.
I still have nightmares. I know I wasn't claustrophobic before that!
The super carriers Forestall class on I think didn't have them except for America. BTW Forestall was the only one of it's class with a 600 PSI system. A prety drastic change and still keep the class going but they did. I read in my old ships forum about the radar dome on the America and it was unhooked sometime in 1980's maybe during the 80 overahul. We slept at water line aft and you could hear the pings. Sounded like an old wooden screen door with a coil spring or close to it. It would drive you crazy underway trying to sleep and then you'd miss the noise in port.
I remember one night they used it to get us back to the ship. I was T.A.D to the boat shop as a boat snipe and we were coming back to the ship from fleet landing in Brindisi when fog rolled in. We were past the breakwall and had no idea where we were otherwise. The Twidgets had us make a few turns to identify us and brought us back in to the ship. We about got hit by a cruise ship in the process. So close we could see the people in their cabins.
Yorktown was a carrier, sunk at Midway. The Ti was indeed a cruiser....
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USS Ticonderoga (CV/CVA/CVS-14) commissioned 1944, decommissioned 1973, scrapped 1975.
Was also out of commission shortly after WWII, reactivated 1950’s...
I do not see why Goldwater should have a CVN named after him. He wasn't a president and he wasn't even Navy.
Reagan deserves his CVN because he was the best friend any sailor ever had for the entire time he was President.
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