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Americans do not go about destroying perfectly good running cars. Yet, here were are, destroying cars for pieces of silver.

It was said at one time that Americans loved their cars. That the car was the closest thing to a living being man could make. Now for a price, they are taking them to the back lot and dumping poison down their throats and having them chopped up into little pieces. Call me paranoid,, I do not care. This is the beginnings of something evil.

I posted last night how Orwellian this was. It is Orwellian.

You have the government now owning GM,,, and now you have the same government starting a program to buy cars and then destroy them. These programs never get smaller. They only expand. Think of ethanol. Think of the school lunch program.

What if the next time they didn’t give you a choice, but mandated you HAD to trade that so called clunker in. And what is a clunker?? Words are wonderful things aren’t they. Why,, a clunker can be a perfectly good running 1988 BMW 535IS, or a fine old 57 Chevy. No allowances are made,, all must be destroyed. This is more than just taking old clunkers off the streets, this is erasing American culture and art. This is about changing mindsets. Americans have affections for their cars. But for a price,, we see now how quickly things can change.

1984, From Part 2, Chapter 5

In a way, the world-view of the Party imposed itself most successfully on people incapable of understanding it. They could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of what was demanded of them, and were not sufficiently interested in public events to notice what was happening. By lack of understanding they remained sane. They simply swallowed everything, and what they swallowed did them no harm, because it left no residue behind, just as a grain of corn will pass undigested through the body of a bird.

Yes,, there is something evil about this.

1 posted on 08/01/2009 7:21:58 AM PDT by freemike
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To: freemike

It’s just another form of wealth redistribution. How long before they have a program to burn down your existing house in order to qualify for a low-interest loan on a new one to stimulate the housing industry? It makes as much sense.

It’s a good thing they don’t think there’s a need to stimulate the mortuary industry...


2 posted on 08/01/2009 7:27:18 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: freemike

“It was said at one time that Americans loved their cars. That the car was the closest thing to a living being man could make. Now for a price, they are taking them to the back lot and dumping poison down their throats and having them chopped up into little pieces. Call me paranoid,, I do not care. This is the beginnings of something evil.”

Put the caffeine away and go get some sleep. People have treated cars like appliances since the car first came out. You really think that if the socialists LBJ or Carter came out with a program like this that thousands upon thousands of Americans would not have busted up their cars then too?


3 posted on 08/01/2009 7:27:56 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: freemike

who the heck traded in a 1988 BMW - for $4500?

Isn’t it worth that much in the oen market?


4 posted on 08/01/2009 7:28:01 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: freemike

Interesting point.


5 posted on 08/01/2009 7:28:11 AM PDT by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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To: freemike

The poor could have used those vehicles. THis is about Obama giving his Greenie Weenies what they want: Destroy those EVIL SUVs!

Once again, the poor get shafted and the taxpayer pays more.

Obama’s fault.


6 posted on 08/01/2009 7:28:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: freemike

Evil? Thats a bit of a stretch. Stupid? Yeah, definitely. My well to do neighbor just traded in his truck for a slightly smaller one on this program. The government just GAVE this guy $4500 bucks. In the meantime, other neighbor, who is really struggling, wont be able to qualify for a new car loan at the moment, so he is screwed.


8 posted on 08/01/2009 7:29:22 AM PDT by Paradox (Obama - Harvard = Sharpton {thanks to sfvgto})
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To: freemike

I question how this is going wind up hurting the poor. Everybody can’t afford a new car - some have to drive “clunkers”. It also takes a lot of used parts out of the system. It strikes me as crazy to destroy something that still works.-—JM


9 posted on 08/01/2009 7:30:10 AM PDT by Jubal Madison (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: freemike
The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

Alexis de Tocqueville

We have met the enemy and he is us.

Walt Kelly

10 posted on 08/01/2009 7:31:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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Carousel for Clunkers

12 posted on 08/01/2009 7:36:08 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Life, Liberty and the Department of Happiness)
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To: freemike

Somehow they have to keep us consuming. The minute we stop, everything is going to change.


14 posted on 08/01/2009 7:37:03 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: freemike
Where is the gobermint getting the money for this program? You know.
15 posted on 08/01/2009 7:37:23 AM PDT by McGruff (Where's the REAL birth certificate? - Jim Robinson)
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i’m not sure that word means what you think it means


17 posted on 08/01/2009 7:37:49 AM PDT by babble-on
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It’s the fallacy of the broken window. A thug breaks a window in a store. The store owner buys a new window. Presto, the economy has benefited because the glass seller has a profit.

NO!

The storeowner would have bought something else with the money for the window, say a new accounting program to make his life easier. He would have had the window and the new accounting program and been better off, while his spending would have been the same.

In this case a new car is sold and an old car is destroyed. The tax money to overpay for the old car and destroy it could have been spent on something useful — so the economic effect would be the same — and we’d still have an old car on the road for people that can’t afford a better auto.


19 posted on 08/01/2009 7:42:34 AM PDT by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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To: freemike

It’s this time around’s version of milk being poured down the drain during the depression. Same thing with the idea of razing sections of ‘underpopulated’ cities.


23 posted on 08/01/2009 7:53:16 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: freemike
Yet, here were are, destroying cars for pieces of silver.

It's not for silver. It's for debt certificates printed out of thin air by a private banking cartel.

This program destroys perfectly good running cars that the poor could actually afford.

How long until people see that the government is nothing but evil?

Audit the fed. Then abolish it. Destroy the lifeblood of tyranny.

24 posted on 08/01/2009 7:55:19 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Tell the public schools: "Don't be mind-rapin!")
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To: freemike
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2305722/posts

These are sad times we live in. Contact your representatives! Let them know how you feel! Email and contact the various Talking heads. In my opinion, the worst part of this C4C deal is the destruction of perfectly good autos! This needs to be hammered for all to see over and over!

27 posted on 08/01/2009 7:57:49 AM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: freemike

Red Barchetta by Rush:

My uncle has a country place
That no one knows about.
He says it used to be a farm
Before the Motor Law.
And on Sundays I elude the Eyes,
And hop the Turbine Freight
To far outside the Wire
Where my white-haired uncle waits.


34 posted on 08/01/2009 8:06:35 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Tell the public schools: "Don't be mind-rapin!")
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It's our modern, wasteful "throw away" society now enshrined in official government policy. This is not my father's generation where you took care of your belongings, worked to fix them when they broke, and used them for a long time to both "get your money's worth" from them as well as to manage resources to be frugal and efficient.

No more. Now it's - OMG it's scratched - throw it away and get a new one. Or, YUK it's all dirty (because I'm a lazy POS that didn't take care of it) - throw it away and get a new one. How ironic that this government policy that represents an enormous waste of the earth's resources and energy is now the law of the land, put into place by the same liberals who supposedly are disgusted by wasting resources. Hypocrisy on parade.

Free cars, free houses, free health care... The Santa Claus government marches on.

37 posted on 08/01/2009 8:15:17 AM PDT by MCH
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To: freemike
You are completely correct. The klunker issue is a window into their thinking. Our masters are destroying America Because they can. Because they will hurt people by doing so, and they relish the pain caused in others by doing so. Further they are intellectually incapable of creating a new order on their own. Rather than recognize how well our system works and how our rights stem from God, they believe in the old Godless Marxist Utopian ideology even when the countries that previously embraced it have discarded it. Indeed these countries are begging us not to go down that road. They are fashioning our slave collars and attaching the chains and my liberal friends are simply not capable of seeing it.
39 posted on 08/01/2009 9:01:15 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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“Nick Clites, who is in charge of used cars for the dealership, was prepping a 1988 BMW 535IS, with 214,000 miles on the odometer, for its death. He drained the oil, then donned a silky blue protective suit, goggles and gloves and poured a sodium silicate solution into the engine. He revved the car, and within a few seconds, the solution hardened into a glass-like substance, the engine seized up and the car was dead.”

With just a little editing this could also be a description of Obamacare...maybe this whole program is a just a precursor...just to get us in the mood.

I also see some shades of Brave New World in this program regarding thoughtless consumption.
40 posted on 08/01/2009 9:11:34 AM PDT by hifidelity
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