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Anti Gun Liberals Get A Victory Over The Second Amendment
secondamendmentfreedom.blogspot.com ^ | 07/23/09 | Sasparilla

Posted on 07/23/2009 8:27:24 AM PDT by Sasparilla

In a loss by just 2 votes, concealed handgun permit holders were denied the first step in handgun carry permit national reciprocity. The final vote was 58 to 39 with 60 votes needed to pass the Thune amendment.

As Charles Schumer smirked his way through an argument against our Second Amendment freedoms, it was a bizarre liberal two faced championing of "state's rights" political expediency.

Will there be the same liberal clamoring for state's rights when someone in Montana, who is squeaky clean, sends a letter to BATFE telling them that they intend to comply with Montana state law and make guns and sound suppressors with the words "made in Montana" on them that are immune to Federal regulation. Let's just see what Mr. Schumer has to say about that.

Former Gun Freedom advocate, and the new New York Senator, Kristen Gillibrand, was whipped into line by Schumer, just as he promised he would do, as she spoke out against the gun rights Amendment.

Dianne Feinstein gleefully pointed out the aberational killings of over twenty people this year by 3 permit holders, and extended their murderous intent and ideations to all permit holders by implication. she also said that passage would be an opportunity to bring 50 handguns guns into California in a back pack and sell them at once. That's as if this isn't already illegal to do without a FFL and a place of business.

This, coming in the face of Senator Thune's pointing out to the Senators that permit holders were over 180 times less likely to commit a violent gun crime than those who have not undergone the permitting process. But, why should a liberal pay attention to facts when a discussion can be charged with usual liberal emotion.

She also almost hysterically proclaimed that the...

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; banglist; cwii; democratcongress; democrats; donttreadonme; gillibrand; guncontrol; kristengillibrand; schumer; shallnotbeinfringed

1 posted on 07/23/2009 8:27:24 AM PDT by Sasparilla
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To: Sasparilla

So close!


2 posted on 07/23/2009 8:34:21 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Sasparilla
In a loss by just 2 votes

Two. ...the precise number of Republicans who voted against it -- Voinovich and Lugar.

3 posted on 07/23/2009 8:34:41 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Sasparilla

The author gets it:

“Just as the anti gun lunatics will not give up in their quest to disarm the average American, those of us who believe in the sanctity of the Second Amendment must remain on the offensive in protecting our rights. “


4 posted on 07/23/2009 8:37:33 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
I'll look at the bright side with the number of Dems that voted for it. Something to be thankful for even though I firmly believe that had we gotten the other two Republicans we would've lost one or two Democrats, who would have then had to face the voters.

Dems play games like that. Making votes close so that some vulnerable Dems can vote with their constituents instead of with the party.

5 posted on 07/23/2009 8:40:09 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: Sasparilla

I pray it will never get this far, but if they want to come claim my gun they are welcome to try in person.


6 posted on 07/23/2009 8:41:28 AM PDT by MadisonABlane
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To: OneWingedShark
In a loss by just 2 votes

So close!

So they would have us believe. However, several senators, after learning the bill would not pass, changed their vote to YEA so they could be on record as being for the bill.

Whores, all of them.

7 posted on 07/23/2009 8:41:39 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Tanniker Smith
I'll look at the bright side with the number of Dems that voted for it. Something to be thankful for..

See post 7

8 posted on 07/23/2009 8:42:26 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Sasparilla; All
Yesterday, I got in quite a few discussions about the Thune Amendment. I was glad it was defeated. Here's why.

The Thune Amendment was a great idea. Allow people who went through the pains and requirements to obtain a permit would be able (if the amendment remained intact after conference) to carry concealed in any state that has a legal CCW permit law.

Great!!! Right?

Now the drawback, and one that NO ONE is looking at is future ramifications.

Say this did pass and finally became law. Now some quick thinking anti-gun politician can say...."There is too much disparity in the laws of the states to make this really work, maybe we should write our own guidelines for CCW permits. That way we can obtain the state records to see who has permits and if they can meet OUR stringent requirements. Maybe we should know what type of firearms they carry and require a casing from them."

While the Thune Amendment would have been a nice thing to have, it was fraught with unintended consequences. A government that wants to 'help' you, usually just wants control over you.

9 posted on 07/23/2009 8:49:35 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: Sasparilla

Let’s see, 3 permit holders commited a crime, so ALL permit holders are potential criminals. Yet 19 arab muslims pull off 9/11, but we shouldn’t judge them by that action? Wouldn’t it be funny/ironic if she has a permit in Californistan? Oh wait, she already has security provided by my tax dollars.


10 posted on 07/23/2009 8:50:49 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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To: Puppage

That’s ok, when the SHTF, those pansies are going to be reduced to crying, sniveling sacks of $hit... and hopefully either be shot or hung as traitors or spat upon and viewed with justly deserved disgust for the rest of their pathetic and miserable lives.


11 posted on 07/23/2009 8:54:03 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Pistolshot
While the Thune Amendment would have been a nice thing to have, it was fraught with unintended consequences. A government that wants to 'help' you, usually just wants control over you.

This was one of my concerns as well!

12 posted on 07/23/2009 9:12:42 AM PDT by JD91
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To: Sasparilla
My take on this is the RINO's will always be Rino's, and I don't need anyone telling me what I can & can not carry.

I will stick to the Constitution and what it says.

13 posted on 07/23/2009 10:17:05 AM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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To: Sasparilla

Doesn’t the word “permit” bother people that defend the right to bear arms?
Do you need a “permit” to vote?
Do you need a “permit” to voice your opinion?

When is a “permit” needed to exercise the right to bear arms good?


14 posted on 07/27/2009 5:45:29 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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