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Is The Liberal, Big Government Bubble Bursting ?
Weekly Standard/The Lid ^ | 7/11/09 | The Lid

Posted on 07/11/2009 3:52:22 PM PDT by Shellybenoit

For months after the 2008 election the propaganda was that the Republican Party was dead, and the United States Was entering the world of European Socialism. Newsweek even made it a cover story which pretty much recommended that we should stop fighting and get used to it. After all that was the way Obama and the Democratic party was heading, and their popularity was sky high.

The mainstream media read the public totally wrong. Voters wanted the President's policies to work, or at the very least, thought that he should be given a chance to make them work--as long as he fixed the economy.

There's the rub, the economy is not getting better, and when that broken promise about unemployment not topping 8.4% if the porkulus bill was passed may have been just the thing to make voters start looking at their watch, wondering if the President has had enough time to make his "big government" policies work.

All along the polls have shown that Americans prefer smaller government, and less spending, but now that unemployment has hit 9.5% the President's popularity is declining quite rapidly.

Is this just a temporary blip or has the great Liberal, big government bubble burst?:

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; obama; socialism

1 posted on 07/11/2009 3:52:22 PM PDT by Shellybenoit
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To: Shellybenoit

QUE Hillary Clinton....She comes riding a white horse to save America for the Dems....


2 posted on 07/11/2009 3:53:35 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: Shellybenoit

The media is not going to let it happen. They know how to spread a meme, they have a lot of experience.


3 posted on 07/11/2009 3:54:23 PM PDT by GeronL ( Patriotic Insurrectionist at http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Shellybenoit

Not dead by a long shot. These folks have so much power, they’re not going to give it up without a huge fight.


4 posted on 07/11/2009 3:56:39 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: GeronL
The media is not going to let it happen. They know how to spread a meme, they have a lot of experience.

Incompetence only goes so far ... I'm just sayin'

5 posted on 07/11/2009 3:58:08 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Shellybenoit

Not yet. You can’t say it’s burst until the GOP is back in the majority.


6 posted on 07/11/2009 4:00:07 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Mr_Moonlight

Exactly. The MSM can blab all they want, but when people’s experience contradicts it, people will begin to wake up. It’s already happening and won’t stop unless the Zero’s policies change or start working (and that won’t happen!) We must keep fighting the nonsense - people ARE starting to wake up!!


7 posted on 07/11/2009 4:00:37 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: Shellybenoit

People on FR are posting about business conditions in their areas. Not good. At all.

For that matter, who has seen new construction (was supposed to be part of Porculus), increased purchases of durable goods, or any other indicator of large projects or better times?

I’ve noticed that retail is at 50-80% off right now. For a whole lot of stuff. Even some grocers have cut hours. There have been some road crews out.


8 posted on 07/11/2009 4:01:50 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: Shellybenoit

No because it’s not too late yet.


9 posted on 07/11/2009 4:10:17 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Lakeshark
Not dead by a long shot. These folks have so much power, they’re not going to give it up without a huge fight.

You are absolutely correct. Given that they cannot even bring themselves to say the words 'tax cut' except when ridiculing their opposition I don't think we will see them changing their agenda any time soon, regardless of how obvious the failure of their policies.

Instead, we may move into a phase of governmental oppression the likes of which we have not seen since the 1920s.

10 posted on 07/11/2009 4:12:03 PM PDT by newheart (Obama. We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: Brilliant

If the current GOP gets back in the majority, it still won’t have burst.


11 posted on 07/11/2009 4:16:58 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: Shellybenoit

The problems of the United States did not begin with Jimmy Carter, nor were they alleviated with Ronald Reagan. In fact, the problems began with “Ol’ Frank” Roosevelt, and his creation of a permanently indentured economy.

Ol’ Frank cannot be entirely blamed, however, because it wasn’t clear at the onset that endless amounts of easy credit for everybody would eventually spiral out of control and then implode, taking the US economy with it. And it is also true that having unlimited funds helped immensely in the Cold War.

But eventually, that is, right now, is it rapidly coming to a halt. And this means no more federal largesse such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, no more “Pax Americana”, where the US military is deployed to a hundred places around the world on our dime.

It likely means that the US national debt will be renounced, that the US government will be forced to have a surplus budget for many years, even if it means that the federal government is cut by 50% or more in size and power.

And it also means that international trade with the US will be mostly ended for decades, so the US will have to rebuild all the infrastructure it outsourced.

Importantly, none of this will be voluntary, because if it was, it would never happen. Reality would be ignored forever. However, the US government will have no choice in the matter.


12 posted on 07/11/2009 4:18:42 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: newheart

We aint seen nothing yet, Unemployment may reach 20% before this is over, and the housing bubble isnt busted yet ,it’s just being stretched. More repo’s coming up.

We cant all work for the government and when Obama is through thats the only jobs there will be.High priced energy should be the icing on the cake.


13 posted on 07/11/2009 4:20:25 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Shellybenoit
All along the polls have shown that Americans prefer smaller government, and less spending, but now that unemployment has hit 9.5% the President's popularity is declining quite rapidly.

ROFL. "All along" what? When? Do Americans even know what "smaller government" is or means? I think not. Truthfully, if BamBam's popularity is declining (a contestable proposition in itself), most of the fat-n-happies will just wait to see who CNNABCNBCCBSNYT tells them is the name of the next Democrat savior.

14 posted on 07/11/2009 4:20:40 PM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: Shellybenoit

The answer rests with the electorate. After two+ decades of public school liberal indoctrination centers and leftist control of the media...Strict-constructionist conservatism won’t prevail at the polls, yet that is possibly the only thing that can save the Republic. More’s the pity.


15 posted on 07/11/2009 4:24:49 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Shellybenoit

The problem with all this is that the Republicians only have one person with balls enough recapture the conservative and independent voters...Sarah Palin (ok so they aren’t real balls). Unfortunately the bulk of the Republicians are satisified to let the liberal media and Democratic minons tear her to pieces without so much as a wimper.


16 posted on 07/11/2009 5:40:52 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Magic Fingers

Fortunately, it’s impossible for the current GOP to become a majority. There aren’t enough of them.


17 posted on 07/11/2009 5:52:29 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Lakeshark

they’re not going to give it up without a huge fight.

We’re their “huckleberry”.


18 posted on 07/11/2009 7:42:37 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember the Alamo Tea Party - PALIN 2012)
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To: Lakeshark

they’re not going to give it up without a huge fight.

We’re their “huckleberry”.


19 posted on 07/11/2009 7:43:41 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember the Alamo Tea Party - PALIN 2012)
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To: Brilliant

You are correct; there cannot be a GOP majority.

Here are the hard facts. The democrats have forged a coalition of victims who are owed a debt by society. The top 5% of wage earners, who pay 95% of the taxes, cast by definition 5% of the vote. They will pay the debt.

“Zero liability voters” will give power to those who will purchase their votes — the highest bidder, if you will. Democrats are famously magnanimous with other peoples’ money.

There is a permanent ruling majority now, and for the foreseeable future. Get used to it; all money belongs to the government, and it will be distributed to those deemed most deserving.


20 posted on 07/11/2009 8:01:59 PM PDT by jimcarroll
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