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To: Polarik
"The bottom line for me is that Obama will be impeached before his first term is finished."

You can't impeach a NON-President. You can arrest him though. Twentieth amendment, section three says he is not President until he, himself "qualifies".

Congress is charged with the responsibility to install a President if he has not done so. This means, if he hasn't presented his proper validated documentation and hasn't "qualified", he cannot be President.

Do we, as citizens, have the right to know whether or not our President is legally serving in that capacity? If so, no judge can deny us this information.

74 posted on 06/21/2009 6:42:25 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham

The Roberts subpreme court has answered that with a resounding NO, YOU HAVE NO STANDING. The federal oligarchs have decided that you and I will not be granted standing to challenge their affirmative action Marxist messiah.


76 posted on 06/21/2009 8:08:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Uncle Sham
You can't impeach a NON-President. You can arrest him though. Twentieth amendment, section three says he is not President until he, himself "qualifies".

"Aye, there's the rub," as Shakepeare said. Who is charged with the vetting the President? Congress? You might think so, but it has never been done.

Actually, the 20th Amendment only applies to the President when he is the President-Elect, and, if he fails to qualify BEFORE taking the oath office, then the Vice President shall assumes the Presidency until such time as a President has been qualified. If the President-Elect never qualifies, then the Vice President becomes President who then chooses his Vice President.

Congress is charged with the responsibility to install a President if he has not done so. This means, if he hasn't presented his proper validated documentation and hasn't "qualified", he cannot be President.

we, as citizens, have the right to know whether or not our President is legally serving in that capacity? If so, no judge can deny us this information.

I believe that the 25th Amendment would be applicable to this scenario:

Amendment XXV Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.\

77 posted on 06/21/2009 8:33:59 PM PDT by Polarik (It's the forgery, Stupid!)
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