The Broad Perspective on the Growing Outrage in America

Columbia Conservative Examiner ^ | June 11, 2009 | Anthony G. Martin

[Quix]

The reality is that we’ll never see another truly free, open and honest election in this country until after the next American Civil War and the death of millions. And the America we’ll have after that won’t be the America we started with - for good or for ill. It was always and ever up to us.

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Y & N . . .

God is the biggest part of the equation as to what will be the ultimate form etc. of America.

However, it is certainly up to us as to whether we choose HIS WAYS, as so many of our founders did, or not . . .

And the consequences of those choices and the follow-through therefrom are quite serious and long lasting.

Have long pondered how Christ will rule after Armageddon . . .

Clearly there are nations . . . those who don’t send a yearly delegation to Jerusalem—I forget—for the Feast of Tabernacles? . . . get no rain . . . Evidently God thinks a lot more of national sovereignty UNDER HIM, than the globalists do.

[Quix]

Civil war . . .

I think it will be mostly chaos in vast regions . . . the oligarchy will send Russia against the East Coast, through Alaska and Canada and the Gulf . . . and a large Asian country through Mexico and the West Coast.

The New Madrid quake will have left super devastations from what was New Orleans to the Great Lakes.

Some have felt that the mid-US would be a back and forth sort of no-man’s land until Armageddon.

God have mercy . . . on all who Love Him.

[AuntB]

” How do we reverse such trends?

Noumenon provided the answer as well. We educate ourselves about our heritage and libertues and then we educate others.....

And buries that which once did shine.
The firm resolve falters, the sacred oath is shattered;
And let none say, “It cannot happen here”.

It is happening right here...right now.”

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Indeed! People must realize that there is NOTHING new under the sun. Any people in history who have sat back and allowed any regime to take them over will get just that...taken over!

That is why I wrote my book. There are plenty of historical lessons there and we better pay attention because we have precious little time left and even less power.

http://jesusweptanamericanstory.blogspot.com/

“If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, so my child may have peace” Thomas Paine

[Republic]

I get so torn. Because all of what he is doing he is rushing. Big itme. He WANTS it to happen and he knows the difficult if not impossible prospect of rolling back MAJOR policy.

He is a pretty bad man to attempt to rush such change when almost half of his nation DOES NOT AGREE with his childish, heavily government controlled plans for our lives. Uhbama is already rich. He will not have to suffer under the shit he is laying at our feet.

I am torn because the phrase " all it takes for us to lose everything is for a whole lot of good people to do NOTHING"

I am so afraid all of us will do nothing.

That we will NOT react in time to the rapid pace uhbama is trying to change the balance of our democratic republic into a dictatorial democracy. He seems like is in the early stages of the Chavez nightmare.

What ARE we going to do? "He who must be obeyed" ( as Sarah called uhbama in her interview with matt lauer today, priceless :^) is at our doorstep, mocking us because of our apparent lack of power.

[Shooter 2.5]

There are only four million gun owners in the National Rifle Association.

If gun owners won’t stand up when it’s easy, they won’t be there when it becomes difficult.

[SE Mom]

Thanks for the ping.

Since the bailout under Bush, the subsequent election of Obama and the nightmare we find ourselves in, I find myself entertaining thoughts that 3 or 4 years ago would have been utterly foreign. I’ve never “trusted” my government- but I’ve rarely been alarmed or frightened by it either. I’ve made certain assumptions about the inherent corruption of government and assumed it would always be thus- on the right and the left.

Now I’m observing unimaginable breakdown of the constitution, of liberty and freedom. It isn’t a joke anymore- it seems we really ARE living in the twilight zone.

Then I watch the manipulation of thought being carried out daily by the press- such as the reactions to the three “political” murders we’ve seen in the last few weeks. Somehow black is white, purple is green and on second thought- there’s no color at all- it’s morphing into the famous gray of collectivism.

Any thoughts or plans about the future- my own personal future and the future of our country I now find are under constant re-evalution, there is no constant underpinning that can be counted on, no foundation to trust.

I wonder- is this how it’s always been when a formerly free people have begun to witness the signs of tyranny? Did they ask these questions we ask? Did they fear for their safety and future? Did they dismiss their doubts, thinking they must be exaggerating?

[Jeff Head]

Read posts 15 and 54.

[conservativegramma]

The only protests that will work will be carried out in the voting booths.

What voting booths? ACORN has taken away any legitimate voting booths.

[EdReform]

Bump & Ping

[Jeff Head]

Here's a more convienent link to them:

POST 15

POST 54

[Republic]

I did. I am chilled. I am going to get a gun and not in a reactionary mode from reading that amazing post, but because I have been discussing here and thinking about it for over 2 years.

It is just as silly and ridiculous to assume that this cannot happen, as it is to assume that is has to happen. Better to be prepared.

I did not know about glenn beck's project...the network and networking and I will be a part of it before today's end.

When the grid goes down, we will ALL need a way to communicate. And I am serious although, in my life, I never thought I would consider thinking or particularly writing such a thing.

Uhbama could very will be the power seeking, soul free entity spoken about in post 15, one who has come to fill a void caused by the trampling of Christian values by secular creep and empowerment.

[NorseWood]

Jeff, just this morning I listened to an interview of Charles Kesler, a Professor at Claremont McKenna College. He was interviewed by the Hoover Institute. Professor Kesler gives an excellent explanation of how the development of progressivism in tghe 20th century has let to where we are with Obama today.

http://tv.nationalreview.com/uncommonknowledge/

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for sharing your views, dear Jeff Head!

[hosepipe]

Post #15 was right on for about 5 years ago, maybe 10 years ago....
Currently its too late.. the time has passed for it to happen..

The colleges and other public education has brain washed America too far gone..

Most of America has no idea what a socialist "IS", let alone the difference between political left and right.. America thinks priviledges are the same thing as rights..

The democrat and republican partys are run by women.. clueless women.. especially the democrats.. Not all women are clueless but by far most are..

Sad to say, its too late for post 15 to happen..
"We" have ridden the slippery slope too far down..
The ride will be bumpy, fast with emerging fascist Oohs!.. and AHs!..

A Civil War would just become the Mother of all Riots..
UNless a Military Coup happens we(america) are/is screwed..
"We" waited too long..

Bush destroyed the republican party.. himself.. on purpose, I think..

I know,,, I know.. I voted for him too.. Obviously I am not too smart.. Al Gore would have caused the present situation SOONER... Maybe then post 15 could have happened.. Under an Al Gore presidency..

[ex-Texan]

Perhaps Obama will wake up later when North Korea and Iran jointly push the war button:

Nuclear War is Kim Jong-Il's Game Plan !

General: Iran and North Korea Have Joined Forces on Missile Work

Perhaps. Perhaps not. Obama just follows orders from the Bilderbergers, CFR and Trilateralists. They have all the money and power in DC.

[Quix]

Remember that the people who've now gotten their hands on the apparatus of the State would rather rule in Hell than live in peace with the rest of us. They will happily reduce Western civilization to stinking pile of rubble and corpses as long as they believe that they will be the ones sitting on top of the rubble heap.

QUITE SO. I suspect, though, that an Asian country or two are convinced that THEY have far more bodies to leave on the top of the heap than the rest of us.

Wake up, people. You’re not going to talk or vote your way out of the tyranny that’s coming. And that’s precisely the point of tyranny, isn’t it? None of us have a Get Out of History Free card, either. None.

Well put.

I don’t know when The Rapture is scheduled. The birth-pangs will be increasingly serious right up to the day of THE GREAT TRIBULATION’S BEGINNINGS.

Scripture talks about the prize going TO THE OVERCOMERS . . . who overcome by The Blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony. I haven’t read anything in Scripture about a time scheduled for wimps in lawn chairs with mint julips watching unscathed while society across the street descends into hell.

Your circumstances can and will change overnight.

It still boggles my mind . . . . soooooooooo many Christian Conservatives even—not to mention the clueless dead armadillos on the yellow stripe in the middle of the road . . . are absolutely clueless about how dramatically things can AND WILL CHANGE OVERNIGHT. I think large numbers of folks are going to be stuck in shock for extended periods of time. And die prematurely because of it.

That's one of the great lessons that so many of us have failed to learn from the history of the twentieth century. Fat, happy, stupid and "it can't happen here," is how most of us are except for the ones who are actually cheering for it to happen here. And then there those of us who see exactly what's going on and are prepared for the eventual outcomes. We're preparing for war.

WELL PUT. The war has been going on since Eden, however. It was settled at The Cross and the empty tomb . . . but the mopping up will be a REAL uhhhh DRAMA! . . . at Armageddon. And between now and then . . . the blood will flow, flow, flow.

Change is coming, oh yes indeed - but it's not what any of that Marxist meat puppet's worshipers bargained for. Rand had it right all these many years ago when she said that there is no personal neutrality today. Time to get off the fence. Time to stand up and be heard. Time to start getting together with like-minded people. Time to organize your list of Things To Do, Places To Go and People To Meet. Because when your favorite websites suddenly go dark, when your cell phones and other comm nets no longer work, when the roadblocks go up, when you hear the knock on the door - then it’ll be too damned late.

INDEED!

It will be too late unless you're willing, like Atlas, to shrug - and then pick up a gun before they come for you. Unless you're willing to take action, you aren't going to get your country back, much less preserve your own freedom and dignity.

All well and good . . . crucial, even . . . However, I think many patriots are very unaware of how MUCH THAT also plays into their plans and schemes—and is quite what they expect. Their means of exterminating opponents and “useless eaters” are unparalleled in all of history many times over. TRULY, GOD ALONE will be of significant lasting refuge and effectiveness against the forces, literally from hell.

So don't just sit there with a pile of ammo and a gun in your closet. Participate in the nearest Appleseed Project shoot and join a community of like minded people turning ammunition into skill. Join up with Glenn Beck's 912Project - a latter-day network of the original Committees of Correspondence - to meet more like-minded folks. Connect with people in your own neighborhood to build your own 'Alarm and Muster' network.

Well and good . . . crucial . . . and . . . in the final analysis . . . probably woefully inadequate in and of itself.

I think folks do NOT realize how utterly dependent on God good folks MUST BECOME AND REMAIN. The arm of flesh WILL FAIL . . . utterly . . . regardless of how well prepared; regardless of how well trained; regardless of how well organized.

It may be the last chance we're going to get.

The die is cast. Scripture is clear. The globalists will be in overt charge 3.5-7 years—the worst years the world has ever seen or ever will see. Scripture is clear about that.

Ayn Rand once said, "The world is a beautiful place and worth fighting for. But not without Freedom." Stand with me. Stand with us. And if you think that freedom is passé or over-rated, just wait until you see what your new masters replace it with.

INDEED.

We are what they fear most - informed, armed and unafraid citizens.

Actually, many of them are too arrogant and clueless to fear much. And, they figure they’ve got all contingencies and groups more than covered . . . particularly with their fallen angel armies assisting.

However, God has more than few surprises up His larger sleeves.

Finally, on the dawn of that "dark modern day" of which Titus Livy spoke over 2000 years ago, when it does all go bad - as it now seems that it will - resolve at the very least to sell your life dearly. Do your best to kill every one who comes for you, your family or your means of self-defense. Make them pay, for if that's what they're coming to do, they are enemies of human freedom and they are unfit to live in a free society. In fact, they are just plain unfit to live. If you surrender to this evil, not only is your cause lost, but you will also strengthen those who would perpetrate their evil on others. And that's the greatest guilt of all...

WELL PUT. THANKS.

[meadsjn]

It is happening right here...right now.

Yes, it is. I've seen a mood change on the faces of a couple of Obama voters, something like, "Everything they warned us about Obama is happening ... ". However, most of them will defend their stupidity to the death.

[Quix]

PRAY!

WALK CLOSE TO GOD!

OBEY GOD!

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT.

HE ALONE IS OUR SUFFICIENT REFUGE.

[ExTexasRedhead]

The Fuhrer is hoping for this so he can use his FEMA camps to lock up the American people. He and his staff were doing homework and research while in Buckenwald. He is probably conferring with his cohorts in the Congress right now.

[Quix]

Prayers for an impactful delivery.

That’s a favorite part of the country to me.

You enjoy THE SMOKE HOUSE just on the South end of Pend O’Reille sp?