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So, as long as a woman feels that a child wouldn’t coincide with her plans for life, then she should be allowed to have an abortion? How far shall we carry out this ideology? I would assume that Ms. Ireland doesn’t contend that you “gain” life as you move forward in it. So, if she feels that life begins at conception but it is okay to end that life at 28 weeks of pregnancy, what is to stop her from ending the child’s life at 5 years old when the mother gets a job in another city and just doesn’t feel like a child will fit in with those plans? Obviously Ms. Ireland wouldn’t condone this, because it doesn’t make any sense. Just like it doesn’t make sense that one would condone an abortion for some arbitrary reason like the hopes and dreams of the pregnant woman, if you understand that life begins at conception.

The left will use ANY excuse to justify infanticide.

1 posted on 06/06/2009 10:21:15 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 06/06/2009 10:21:42 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 06/06/2009 10:22:08 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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56,000 were killed in Buchenwald...and the world justafiaby, and understandably condemns the holocaust and hunted down and executed the perpetrators.

By his own admission, Tiller butchered 60,000 and more, and yet a corrupt law, that has protected the practioners in this gruesome holocaust, protected the man from the true rule of law.

Anyone blind to the sick, evil irony of that have accepted a deparved set of circumstances and strong delusion.

I mourn Tiller's family at the loss of their father and grandfather. I doubt seriously that they knew the full and graphic nature of what he was involed in.

But I absolutely refuse to mourn the fact that he, Dr. Tiller, a bloody, gruesome killer of fully formed babies...who were alive, who could FEEL THE PAIN of being literally ripped asunder, will himself murder no more.

THE GRUESOME TRUTH OF THE ABORTION HOLOCAUST & THE DEATH OF DR. TILLER [Warning: A graphic photo of death & dismemberment]

“It is the grimmest of ironies that one of the most savage, barbaric acts of evil in history began in one of the most modernized societies of its time, where so many markers of human progress became tools of human depravity: science that can heal, used to kill; education that can enlighten, used to rationalize away basic moral impulses; the bureaucracy that sustains modern life, used as the machinery of mass death, a ruthless, chillingly efficient system where many were responsible for the killing, but few got actual blood on their hands.”–Barack Obama April 24, 2009, Holocaust Remebernce Day, Chicago Sun Times.

4 posted on 06/06/2009 10:26:29 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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The operating word here is “feels”.


5 posted on 06/06/2009 10:27:12 AM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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Ireland’s eyes betrayed the deadness in her soul. She had a white smile, nicely cropped hair, and perfectly applied amke-up, but her eyes were dead as she spouted her vacuous cannards. The strong delusion under which Patricia Ireland has lain herself demands the occasional open acknowledgement else the antithetical reasoning would eventually corrode into exposing the truth being rejected simply by the absurdity of the positions people like Ireland must hold which are contradictory.


6 posted on 06/06/2009 10:31:59 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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It is my opinion that a woman's choice ends when she says yes or no to the act which leads to babies!

(the rape argument is a totally different discussion, so don't go there)

7 posted on 06/06/2009 10:36:55 AM PDT by sweet_diane (embracing Him.)
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And the most unbelievable thing to me is that millions, if not BILLIONS, of people think that is a sound rationalization and does make it legitimate.

It simply is insanity.


9 posted on 06/06/2009 11:17:27 AM PDT by phatus maximus ( John 6:29. Learn it, love it, live it.)
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So she thinks that people should be allowed to murder for convenience.

How sweet....


10 posted on 06/06/2009 12:16:37 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Praying for them.


13 posted on 06/06/2009 1:11:08 PM PDT by Salvation ( With God all things are possible.)
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She believes just as you and I do that life begins at conception! How then does she reconcile the fact that abortion is murder with a “woman’s right to choose”? She went onto say, "but that is the wrong question. Fetuses do not grow inside Petri dishes, they grow inside real live women who have their own issues of health, their own responsibilities, their own dreams and hopes.”

This logic actually supports the killing of Tiller.

Let's follow the logic.

-- It is okay to kill people if they impinge upon the health, responsibilities, dreams and hopes of a woman, based on her whims.
-- Tiller violated the dreams and hopes of the millions of women who are pro-life by persisting in the killing of the unborn.
-- THEREFORE, according to Ireland's logic, Tiller's killing is morally justified.

Ireland's own logic, if true, would morally justify Roeder's act of killing Tiller.

Of course, the logic is crap, so of course it doesn't justify Tiller's murder. Nor does it justify the killing of the unborn. Can't have it both ways. Why hasn't someone called her on it? This is EASY PICKINGS!
14 posted on 06/06/2009 4:06:46 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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If it wasn’t a human life, why would they want to kill it?


18 posted on 06/07/2009 5:17:50 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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‘During the course of their conversation, O’Reilly asked Ms. Ireland when she believes life begins. She responded by saying, “I think immediately upon conception there is life.” She believes just as you and I do that life begins at conception! How then does she reconcile the fact that abortion is murder with a “woman’s right to choose”? She went onto say, “but that is the wrong question. Fetuses do not grow inside Petri dishes, they grow inside real live women who have their own issues of health, their own responsibilities, their own dreams and hopes.”’

I think we should thank her for her intellectual honesty. I’d rather battle a liberal who is truthful about objective facts(i.e., life begins at conception) than one who deliberately lies about objective facts.


22 posted on 06/07/2009 3:01:37 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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23 posted on 06/07/2009 4:36:39 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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