Shock call to Action: 'At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers'

Climate Depot ^ | June 3, 2009 | Marc Morano

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Wednesday, June 03, 2009By Marc Morano – Climate Depot [ Update: 8:44 AM ET: Talking Points Memo (TPM) has removed the article from their website. "The file you are looking for has not been found" - But the url with a portion of the chilling message lingers as evidence: "at-what-point-do-we-jail-or-ex..." - http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/crazedandconfused/2009/06/at-what-point-do-we-jail-or-ex.php?ref=reccafe - Climate Depot has also saved a screen shot of the orginal article.]

A public appeal has been issued by an influential U.S. website asking: “At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers.” The appeal appeared on Talking Points Memo, an often cited website that helps set the agenda for the political Left in the U.S. The anonymous posting, dated June 2, 2009, referred to dissenters of man-made global warming fears as “greedy bastards” who use “bogus science or the lowest scientists in the gene pool” to “distort data.”

The Talking Points Memo article continues: “So when the right wing f*cktards have caused it to be too late to fix the problem, and we start seeing the devastating consequences and we start seeing end of the World type events - how will we punish those responsible. It will be too late. So shouldn't we start punishing them now?" The article also claims the “vast majority” of scientists agree that man-made warming “can do an untold amount of damage to life on Earth.”

The full text of the Talking Points Memo is reproduced below:

(Note: The entry is posted under the anonymous byline "The Insolent Braggart")

At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers June 2, 2009, 9:42PM

What is so frustrating about these fools is that they are the politicians and greedy bastards who don't want a cut in their profits who use bogus science or the lowest scientists in the gene pool who will distort data for a few bucks. The vast majority of the scientific minds in the World agree and understand it's a very serious problem that can do an untold amount of damage to life on Earth.

So when the right wing f*cktards have caused it to be too late to fix the problem, and we start seeing the devastating consequences and we start seeing end of the World type events - how will we punish those responsible. It will be too late. So shouldn't we start punishing them now?

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Climate Depot Editor's Note:

The Talking Points Memo appeal to execute skeptics is not unique. As the science behind man-made global warming fears utterly collapses, many of the biggest promoters of the theory and environmental activists are growing increasingly desperate.

NASA's James Hansen has called for trials of climate skeptics in 2008 for "high crimes against humanity.” Environmentalist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. lashed out at skeptics of 2007 declaring “This is treason. And we need to start treating them as traitors” In 2009, RFK, Jr. also called coal companies "criminal enterprises" and declared CEO's 'should be in jail... for all of eternity."

In 2006, the eco-magazine Grist called for Nuremberg-Style trials for skeptics. In 2008, Canadian environmentalist David Suzuki called for government leaders skeptical of global warming to be thrown “into jail.” In 2007, The Weather Channel's climate expert called for withholding certification of skeptical meteorologists.

A 2008 report found that 'climate blasphemy' is replacing traditional religious blasphemy. In addition, a July 2007 Senate report detailed how skeptical scientists have faced threats and intimidation

In 2007, then EPA Chief Vowed to Probe E-mail Threatening to 'Destroy' Career of Climate Skeptic and dissenters of warming fears have been called 'Climate Criminals' who are committing 'Terracide' (killing of Planet Earth) (July 25, 2007) In addition, in May 2009, Climate Depot Was Banned in Louisiana! See: State official sought to 'shut down' climate skeptic's testimony at hearing

Below are many more examples of the threats, name calling and intimidation skeptics have faced in recent times.

November 12, 2007: UN official warns ignoring warming would be 'criminally irresponsible' Excerpt: The U.N.'s top climate official warned policymakers and scientists trying to hammer out a landmark report on climate change that ignoring the urgency of global warming would be "criminally irresponsible." Yvo de Boer's comments came at the opening of a weeklong conference that will complete a concise guide on the state of global warming and what can be done to stop the Earth from overheating.

September 29. 2007: VA State Climatologist skeptical of global warming loses job after clash with Governor: 'I was told that I could not speak in public' Excerpt: Michaels has argued that the climate is becoming warmer but that the consequences will not be as dire as others have predicted. Gov. Kaine had warned. Michaels not to use his official title in discussing his views. "I resigned as Virginia state climatologist because I was told that I could not speak in public on my area of expertise, global warming, as state climatologist," Michaels said in a statement this week provided by the libertarian Cato Institute, where he has been a fellow since 1992. "It was impossible to maintain academic freedom with this speech restriction." (LINK)

Skeptical State Climatologist in Oregon has title threatened by Governor (February 8, 2007) Excerpt: “[State Climatologist George Taylor] does not believe human activities are the main cause of global climate change...So the [Oregon] governor wants to take that title from Taylor and make it a position that he would appoint. In an exclusive interview with KGW-TV, Governor Ted Kulongoski confirmed he wants to take that title from Taylor.

Skeptical State Climatologist in Delaware silenced by Governor (May 2, 2007) Excerpt: Legates is a state climatologist in Delaware, and he teaches at the university. He`s not part of the mythical climate consensus. In fact, Legates believes that we oversimplify climate by just blaming greenhouse gases. One day he received a letter from the governor, saying his views do not concur with those of the administration, so if he wants to speak out, it must be as an individual, not as a state climatologist. So essentially, you can have the title of state climatologist unless he`s talking about his views on climate?

October 28, 2008: License to dissent: 'Internet should be nationalized as a public utility' to combat global warming skepticism - Australian Herald Sun - Excerpt: British journalism lecturer and warming alarmist Alex Lockwood says my blog is a menace to the planet. Skeptical bloggers like me need bringing into line, and Lockwood tells a journalism seminar of some options: There is clearly a need for research into the ways in which climate skepticism online is free to contest scientific fact. But there is enough here already to put forward some of the ideas in circulation. One of the founders of the Internet Vint Cerf, and lead for Google's Internet for Everyone project, made a recent suggestion that the Internet should be nationalized as a public utility. As tech policy blogger Jim Harper argues, “giving power over the Internet to well-heeled interests and self-interested politicians” is, and I quote, “a bad idea.” Or in the UK every new online publication could be required to register with the recently announced Internet watchdog...

November 5, 2008: UK Scientist: 'BBC SHUNNED ME FOR DENYING CLIMATE CHANGE' – UK Daily Express Excerpt: FOR YEARS David Bellamy was one of the best known faces on TV. A respected botanist and the author of 35 books, he had presented around 400 programmes over the years and was appreciated by audiences for his boundless enthusiasm. Yet for more than 10 years he has been out of the limelight, shunned by bosses at the BBC where he made his name, as well as fellow scientists and environmentalists. His crime? Bellamy says he doesn't believe in man-made global warming. Here he reveals why – and the price he has paid for not toeing the orthodox line on climate change.

U.N. official says it's 'completely immoral' to doubt global warming fears (May 10, 2007) Excerpt: UN special climate envoy Dr. Gro Harlem Brundtland declared “it's completely immoral, even, to question” the UN's scientific “consensus."

Former US Vice President Al Gore compared global warming skeptics to people who 'believe the moon landing was actually staged in a movie lot in Arizona' (June 20, 2006)

Gore Refuses to Hear Skeptical Global Warming Views (Video)

UK environment secretary David Miliband said 'those who deny [climate change] are the flat-Earthers of the twenty-first century' (October 6, 2006)

Weather Channel Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics (January 17, 2007) Excerpt: The Weather Channel's most prominent climatologist is advocating that broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic global warming. This latest call to silence skeptics follows a year (2006) in which skeptics were compared to "Holocaust Deniers" and Nuremberg-style war crimes trials were advocated by several climate alarmists.

Related Links:

Democrats Refuse to Allow Skeptic to Testify Alongside Gore At Congressional Hearing - April 23, 2009

S. African UN Scientist: 'The whole climate change issue is about to fall apart -- Heads will roll!' - April 2009

Climate Depot Editorial: We would all be doomed if we actually faced climate 'crisis' - Cap-and-trade equals all economic pain for no climate gain

Warming theory 'dying the death of a thousand cuts' - Ocean Conveyor Belt Model Broken: 'Models are significantly wrong' - May 2009

Climate Fears RIP...for 30 years!? - Global Warming could stop 'for up to 30 years! Warming 'On Hold?...'Could go into hiding for decades' study finds – Discovery.com – March 2, 2009

Japanese Scientist compares global warming to 'astrology'

U.S. Senate Report: 700 Plus Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Warming Claims

[Niuhuru]

Meanwhile the Chinese build their military and economy and education system, finding the best teachers they can.

And my father’s generation continues to squander the birthright/trust that was bequeathed to them when my grandfather’s generation began to step down.

I wonder how long it’ll be before American women become mail order brides for Chinese men.

[allmendream]

Those who beat their swords into plowshare's end up plowing for those who do not.

[Le Chien Rouge]

“we start seeing the devastating consequences “

I would think the enlightened, Gaia worshiping, so called ‘environmentalists’ would want devastating consequences.....

.....what better way of reducing population, which is their actual goal anyway.

[GOPJ]

Too bad the author of this refers to us as "greedy". It means "momsee and daddee" aren't sending him any checks and he's taking his tantrum out on responsible conservatives.

Probably a Bill Ayers waanaaee (waa, waa, waa) - condemning the class that supports his laziness...Liberals really are little nazis.

[GOPJ]

They are gonna save the world one soy bar at a time, you know. But this article, for some reason, made me want to have a BBQ. I think I will get in my F250 SuperDuty and drive to the store for a bag of charcoal. Anyone up for medium rare steaks???

Sounds great. Let's get the charcoal at Walmart and have a bonfire after dinner...

[Le Chien Rouge]

“””I’m picturing a wild eyed, scraggly haired, Earth First type; sitting at his computer at 2:00 am, with half a dozen crumpled empty Red Bull cans on the floor.””””

Some Characteristics of Typical Environmentalists:

1) Anti capitalist but Lives off Trust fund(AL Gore)
2) Hates religion but worships Gaia
3) Preaches conservation but has twice the power bill you have
4) Loves wind power but NIMBY(Kennedy)
5) Doesn’t recycle and couldn’t tell you what a compost pile is.

[Merlinator]

How about shooting off some firecrackers too? That should leave a pretty decent carbon footprint, besides I kind of like that gunpowder smell.

[envisio]

Let's get the charcoal at Walmart

But of course.

[painter]

old crackcase oil to get it going.

That works good for starting brush fires.

[GOPJ]

Firecrackers work for me - ones with lots of smoke and noise...

[Star Traveler]

All this is — is an anonymous poster, who posted the following (as you indicated)...

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At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers

June 2, 2009, 9:42PM

What is so frustrating about these fools is that they are the politicians and greedy bastards who don’t want a cut in their profits who use bogus science or the lowest scientists in the gene pool who will distort data for a few bucks. The vast majority of the scientific minds in the World agree and understand it’s a very serious problem that can do an untold amount of damage to life on Earth.

So when the right wing fucktards have caused it to be too late to fix the problem, and we start seeing the devastating consequences and we start seeing end of the World type events - how will we punish those responsible. It will be too late. So shouldn’t we start punishing them now?

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This post is sort of like the posts that I see on Free Republic (on topics people here are interested in) saying something like (for gun issues, for example) — “If you shoot a criminal breaking in to your house, and he’s not dead, make sure you kill him first before calling the police”...

I’m sure that many could take a comment like that and “make hay” out of it, too.

What can I say, but that on the Internet and with anonymous posters, you’re going to get all sorts of comments like these.

But, turning them into public policy is not something that is going to happen.

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[ Although on “one side” of the political spectrum, I’m sure I’ll get comments that the “camps are being set up now...” LOL..., and on the other side of the political spectrum, there will be references to the Right Wing Taliban enforcing their religion on others... LOL... watch to see how long it takes for someone to post that “there are camps being set up now to do that!” :-) ... ]

[Star Traveler]

Oh..., and for my standard “Anthropogenic Global Warming” post...

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It’s one thing to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but it’s quite *another* to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...

THEREFORE..., it’s also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply *one* video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the *one*...

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The following is an *excellent* video documentary on the so-called “Global Warming” I would recommend it to all FReepers. It’s a very well-made documentary.

“The Great Global Warming Swindle”

If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3635222/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
[this is a high-quality copy, of about a gigabyte in size...]

It’s worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.

Also, see it online here...
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/great_global_warming_swindle.php
[this one is considerably lower quality, is a flash video and viewable online, of course...]

Buy it here...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WLUXZE
[this one would be the very highest quality version, on a DVD disk, of several gigabytes in size...]

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Also, in split parts on YouTube...

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 1 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMA6sszChwQ

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 2 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERisgJ3QWjk

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 3 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HLVYwmZoxc

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 4 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr-AG3BA1Go

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 5 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbllTsBHuxk

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 6 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyK7C1OrAAo

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 7 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrIX8LcAuMQ

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 8 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ZmCDOZbtM

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

I was wondering where I could dispose of the gasoline in my lawnmower when I repair it this weekend, but now that these dummies want my head, I think I’ll just remove the bent blade and run the engine until the last molecule of gas becomes CO2 and H2O.

[ScottinVA]

“I’m picturing a wild eyed, scraggly haired, Earth First type; sitting at his computer at 2:00 am, with half a dozen crumpled empty Red Bull cans on the floor”

...who is even more pi$$ed off with the civilized world because his mother is screaming at him to get off her computer and go to bed.

[crazyhorse691]

Now I gotta go out and burn some wet brush and I’ll have to use old crackcase oil to get it going.

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Don’t forget the old tires to keep it burning hot...btw, good call on using old drug oil since it pollutes more than old crankcase oil:-)

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

And NASA is hiding stuff....related thread:

NASA Still Hiding Correlation Between Solar Activity & Temperature

[SunkenCiv]

"At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers." The appeal appeared on Talking Points Memo, an often cited website that helps set the agenda for the political Left in the U.S. The anonymous posting, dated June 2, 2009, referred to dissenters of man-made global warming fears as "greedy bastards" who use "bogus science or the lowest scientists in the gene pool" to "distort data."

There is no data supporting human induced climate change, and there never has been. It is strictly political in origin and is sustained by politics. The climate is one hundred per cent natural one hundred per cent of the time.

[SUSSA]

No serious person believes in global warming.

[xcamel]

FReepmail me to get on or off

Ping me if you find one I've missed.

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[Alas Babylon!]

bump for later....