Posted on 06/01/2009 3:12:49 PM PDT by CMoran325
War soon. Yes. Our fathers should have put their feet down and stopped this and other Marxist obominations. May it come soon so our children won’t have to deal with it or face enslavement! May the courage of our convictions move us onward to organize.
Mr. Roeder IS a HERO in my book.
He has sacrificed his future in order to save the lives of many more unborn babies. The pendulum is swinging. You may need to decide which side you’ll be on in the future...Those silenced by political correctness or those with the courage of their convictions to stand up and forcefully confront the dark forces of this world.
The time is fast approaching when this self-rightousness that you and others espouse, in which you advocate doing nothing but soft whimperings (and in fact indirectly defend evil men) in light of continued butcherings so that you can look ‘nobel’ to your political correct trainers and masters, will paint you as an accomplice and apologist for the evil men and women of this world....and may it not rest kindly upon your head.
not sure what your question was...
i’m not convinced to any degree that Tiller being shot will cost anymore lives
right now less are being killed in his “clinic”, that’s for sure
Ah...there is no truth to you Moran. That is your problem. Everyone’s opinion has equal validity. You are apparently lost.
Is the “value” of the person cutting off the arm of a toddler on the playground of sufficient balance against the toddlers “value” that it would mire you in indecision as to what to do? Not I. They'd be whipping that asshole’s brains off the slide. Making a decision is difficult. Sitting on a fence rendering noble sounding virtues is unacceptable.
“AND is it worth pulling that trigger if it ultimately leads to even more innocent lives being taken?”
MORE INNOCENT life being taken?? You think Tiller innocent? Wow. Colors are showing.
Actually quite the opposite. Being as last I heard only 3 ‘doctors’ in the US crush and suck infants brains...tiller one of them...we have netted an approximate 33% reduction of baby mutilations today and for the near future. ALSO, an effective deterrent has been demonstrated for those monsters who would like to break into the practise as well. I hardly think innocent is a correct term to link to people who immerse themselves in a profession of infant butchering.
A job well done Mr. Roeder!!
Having said that, I support all effots to educate and bring people around and I pray we can accomplish the end goal by those means.
I personally believe that that also involves exposing the ghstly, harsh, reality of what abortion is and does. Without understning that, people are easily subverted by the liberl PC speak, such as "pro-choice", a woman's right to choose, ending "unwanted" pregnancies, and the like.
That subversion and PC speak is burned away in the harsh light of one look at what they are saying an individual has a "right" to choose (ie. a ghastly, violent, horrific genocide), and those pictures demonstrate that in a way no discusion could.
I’m done defending myself to someone whose only intent seems to be to rip me apart.
Bottom line is — killing Tiller may have seemed expedient and “righteous” to his killer and others, but in the end it only hurts the pro-life cause and probably will lead to even more deaths of innocent children.
And seriously — if you were to say that you felt you were living a moral life, would it be fair to offer you the same response? Obviously there are those who rationalize what you and I believe to be immoral behavior — but don’t dare drag me down with them. You and I may have a disagreement on certain specifics, but I would never compare you to them.
I'm not ripping you. I'm quite certain your a very nice person. I'm ripping your argument. There's a difference.
Look at it this way:
Tiller’s Killer 1 Ted Kennedy 1
I am not aware of “24” or Jack Bauer. Is this something from cable TV (which I don’t have)?
In disclaiming violence, do you contend that justice and “violence” are mutually exclusive?
What I find abhorrent is that Tiller’s killer may (how can I know the killer’s motive for sure) have felt compelled to act because a “justice” system not only refused to protect people from violent acts, but actively protected the baby killer’s “legal” right to commit murder.
The “rule of law” is something worthy of being upheld only when its values have some semblance to, or congruity with, natural law and the laws of God.
If you don’t believe that, then you will perhaps condemn our founding fathers for their Declaration of Independence and the following acts of the Revolutionary War. Do you “sorrow” on or “celebrate” the 4th of July?
Borrowing the founding father’s lingo,
1. Everyone has a God given right to LIFE.
2. The government’s job is to protect that.
3. An unjust government opposes the “Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God.”
4. “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
5. “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations...”
What would you call the killing of 50,000,000 innocent American babies...what would God call it?
You wrote:
“The death penalty is an entirely different kettle of fish, that you will excuse me if I don’t get into now. But there is a difference in this country between being found guilty in a court of law, and being gunned down by someone who decided he is judge and jury.”
Our courts of law, most notably the HIGHEST (human) court of law has found every unborn child in the land guilty of a capital offense, and decreed they only be allowed to live if their mother issues them a pardon and carries them to FULL TERM...AND delivers them alive.
Our children were nor afforded the luxury of a legislature OR a jury, they were sentenced to death by judicial fiat.
Just decrying violence and using this as a prop is no way to win the argument.
Late term abortion kills a human. Period.
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