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To: rintense
I agree with Sarah but the situation is not as easy or clear cut as some, including me, would want to make it.

For instance what is our duty if we were in a room with Dr Tiller and a woman 8 months pregnant when Tiller grabs the foreceps?

I know the question is tough but life ain't easy sometimes.

8 posted on 06/01/2009 8:43:04 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

It is clear cut. Are we a nation of laws or not? Do we really want to go down that road. What other laws can then be violated?


10 posted on 06/01/2009 8:44:23 AM PDT by dfwgator (The Huskies are Gator Bait!)
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To: jwalsh07

> For instance what is our duty if we were in a room with Dr Tiller and a woman 8 months pregnant when Tiller grabs the foreceps?

You know the answer to that one, I suspect. And while it isn’t the answer we would like it to be in an ideal world, it is the right answer.


19 posted on 06/01/2009 8:49:58 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: jwalsh07
For instance what is our duty if we were in a room with Dr Tiller and a woman 8 months pregnant when Tiller grabs the foreceps?

I would probably reload my empty weapon.

34 posted on 06/01/2009 8:56:04 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: jwalsh07
"For instance what is our duty if we were in a room with Dr Tiller and a woman 8 months pregnant when Tiller grabs the foreceps?"

I recall having this discussion, back in a college classroom, where the teacher was grossly exxagerating "violent" attacks upon abortion clinics (there had been NONE) until I corrected her.

It would be to defend that baby's life as it would be to defend the life of born person whose life might be similarily jeopardized, as I argued at the time.

However, as the situation in our country exists currently, with respect to abortion and it's legal status AND Liberal control of the media, it wouldn't be seen that way and will NEVER be seen that way until the Liberal stranglehold on our culture is broken.

Nor at this time could a pro-life politician, leader in the pro-life and/or conservative movment, or any pro-life person, publicly state it any differently than Sarah has. They would immediately be excoriated and touted as pro-violence by the pro-abortion media and popular and political culture as ridiculously hypocritical as doing so may be.

In short your point is well taken, but you can't say it.

62 posted on 06/01/2009 9:09:01 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: jwalsh07

The question isn’t “tough” at all. Why would you even be in a room during a sterile procedure? Are you part of the doctor’s team? The way to change the law is to change the law not break the law by murdering someone. We are not living in a totalitarian state ( yet) so use the methods that will be the most powerful over time. Hate the doctor or his actions all you want, he was in church and NOTHING he did in his medical practise was against the law. Endangering others to satisfy one’s own blood lust is at best inadvisable.


69 posted on 06/01/2009 9:14:32 AM PDT by the long march
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To: jwalsh07
For instance what is our duty if we were in a room with Dr Tiller and a woman 8 months pregnant when Tiller grabs the foreceps?

Answer: Our moral responsibility in this scenario and every other scenario would be to obey God's law, which trumps everything else. In this particular scenario you describe it would be to lay down your life for another.

77 posted on 06/01/2009 9:21:30 AM PDT by frogjerk (C-NJ)
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To: jwalsh07
For instance what is our duty if we were in a room with Dr Tiller and a woman 8 months pregnant when Tiller grabs the foreceps?

Do not play God. That is not your job.

106 posted on 06/01/2009 9:42:59 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: jwalsh07

The only moral answer to that question is to kill the killer. Anyone that would just stand by is a coward of the first degree..and would be a coward even if quoting scripture...


133 posted on 06/01/2009 11:59:39 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: jwalsh07
For instance what is our duty if we were in a room with Dr Tiller and a woman 8 months pregnant when Tiller grabs the foreceps?... I know the question is tough but life ain't easy sometimes.

In your hypothetical is what Tiller doing legal and is the eight month pregnant woman there of her own volition?

143 posted on 06/01/2009 2:06:09 PM PDT by jla
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To: jwalsh07

No then you would get him in a full nelson or hit him over the head with a folding chair, not blow him away...


176 posted on 06/07/2009 11:45:31 AM PDT by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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