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Tiller's Killer Soul-Mate of Obama's Murderous Friends, Bill Ayers & Bernadette Dohrn?
Bloggers & Personal ^ | 31 May 09 | Xzins

Posted on 05/31/2009 7:12:33 PM PDT by xzins

President Obama, friend of former Weather Underground murderers, William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn, finds it fashionable to condemn the killings of one violent anti-government type, but finds soirees with Ayers and Dorhn perfectly acceptable. Ayers anti-government group, the Weathermen, killed Walter Schroeder, Peter Paige, Edward O'Grady, and Waverly Brown.

Scott Roeder, the name now being linked to the murder of baby killer, Dr. George Tiller, is a violent, exconvict who had served time on an explosives charge, and who had had a parole violation on that same charge. http://www.cjonline.com/stories/071097/parole.html

Other information on Roeder includes his association with the Freeman, an anti-government group kept under watch by authorities.

Acting on his anti-government beliefs has apparently led Roeder to take the life of Dr. George Tiller, a gruesome abortionist sometimes featured on the O'Reilly Factor and other news programs. Tiller's specialty was birthing murder, or late term abortion.

Tiller's murder, however, is objectionable to our president. Meanwhile, Obama's friends, Ayers and Dohrn, with known connections to police killings and efforts to overthrow our government, get a pass.

Obama must think that one man's murderer is another man's revolutionary. But, not the other way around???


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: ayers; dohrn; freemen; georgetiller; obama; roeder; tiller; weather; weathermen; weatherunderground
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To: xzins
Thanks for the ping.

I'm sure the media will forget to mention the similarities.

21 posted on 05/31/2009 8:04:58 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Morgana
Maybe, just maybe he was looking for forgiveness?

There are a lot of churches that make abortionists feel like heroes. They not only condone sin, they put some sins on a pedestal, such as homosexuality and abortion and claim that these sins are "Good".

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isa 5:20)

Its been going on for a long time.

22 posted on 05/31/2009 8:05:20 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Morgana; xzins

http://www.reformation-lutheran.org/index.html


23 posted on 05/31/2009 8:20:00 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Morgana
You know....I have to wonder...I am shocked he was going to church. Maybe, just maybe he was looking for forgiveness? Maybe his conscience was starting to bother him.....just a little? Maybe he was going to church looking for something........

(He's been a member of that church for yrs & yrs)

24 posted on 05/31/2009 9:17:50 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Tzimisce
Ayres should be proud today. A rebel stood up for the little guy against the racist, sexist, homophobic government that endorses such awful acts

The little guy against the government is exactly the argument of the Weather Underground, Bill Ayers, and it continues for them today.

They should be offering Roeder a place on their board of directors shortly. He's one of them.

25 posted on 06/01/2009 3:39:59 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: Morgana; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; enat; Alamo-Girl

It sounds as if Tiller was a long-time member of this church, so it was probably not a matter of conscience that took him there yesterday morning.

He went because his views were accepted in that church, OR because they didn’t know they had a murderer in their midst.

Who was the serial killer who was caught a few years back who was a Sunday School teacher at some church?


26 posted on 06/01/2009 5:07:45 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: xzins
Per the CNN story, Tiller was an usher. It makes sense, users are very exposed in the foyer of the church. If the killer got ahold of a copy of the usher schedule (which, as you know, is often in the bulletin or newsletter) he would know exactly where Tiller would be and what time he would be there, and that he would be unlikely to be protected.

I won't even get into the fact that this "church" offerred a lay leadership position to a notorious abortinist. I prayed fervently for the BTK killer's congregation (also Lutheran), ignorant as they were of the devil in their midst. But I am so far finding it impossible to pray for this church. They knowingly yoked themselves to Satan.

27 posted on 06/01/2009 5:34:10 AM PDT by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
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To: xzins

Xzins, to answer your question, the BTK killer was a lay minister in his church. He had access to all the churches facilities and I believe he both stored some of his “equipment” on church property and used the church itself in the commission of one of the murders.


28 posted on 06/01/2009 5:36:43 AM PDT by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
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To: jboot

Thanks. The BTK killer, and it, too, was a serial murderer in the midst of a Lutheran congregation.

As you point out, that Lutheran congregation did not know they were hosting a serial murderer. I’m assuming that Tiller’s congregation was aware that he was a professional baby killer.


29 posted on 06/01/2009 5:36:44 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: xzins

George Tiller was simply huge on the Wichita scene. I don’t think there is any possible way to give his church the benefit of a doubt. It would be like having O.J. Simpson in the congregation. They had to know who he was.


30 posted on 06/01/2009 7:15:19 AM PDT by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
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To: xzins
Sadly, the BTK killer's church was also Lutheran.

I imagine the Lutherans are in the same boat with the pro life community, not wanting the public to judge their assembly by the actions of a few sick people.

31 posted on 06/01/2009 7:17:14 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: jboot; rdb3; P-Marlowe

Tiller being killed at church by Roeder was a bit too dramatic for me. If, as we are being told, Roeder has been involved in activism for some time, then we should also realize that he would know that the impact of his actions would be front page news, and that that news would be damaging to the pro-life movement.

Therefore, I’m assuming that’s what Roeder intended to accomplish. He intended to hurt the pro-life movement.


32 posted on 06/01/2009 7:19:38 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: Alamo-Girl; jboot

I feel sorry for Christian Lutherans who might be associated with any weeds in their midst. As you point out, that is a common malady in all church.

Jboot says Tiller was too big a topic in Wichita for the church not to have known his background. I don’t live there, but I tend to agree with that.

At the same time, Tiller’s killer, in my view of things, had the background and experience to know that his act would tend to hurt the pro-life movement rather than help it.

It is fair to ask the question, “Why did Roeder want to hurt the pro-life movement?”


33 posted on 06/01/2009 7:27:16 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: xzins; jboot
If Roeder is an anti-government activist as claimed, then I suspect that was his motivation, i.e. a wildly newsworthy slam at the biggest abomination proliferated by the present government.

If so, it was selfish in the extreme, without a care for the pro-life movement, victims of future abortions, indeed many voters who stand against encroaching governance. Or to put it another way, it serves the interest of the political powers both in government and the media to pin this deed on their political adversaries.

Thank you for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

34 posted on 06/01/2009 8:06:50 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: xzins; jboot
Because truth is stranger than fiction, both the BTK killer and Tiller attended Lutheran churches in Wichita only a few miles from each other.
35 posted on 06/01/2009 8:15:13 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: xzins
At the same time, Tiller’s killer, in my view of things, had the background and experience to know that his act would tend to hurt the pro-life movement rather than help it...It is fair to ask the question, “Why did Roeder want to hurt the pro-life movement?”

I tend to agree with your thesis. Could it be possible that Roeder was angry with the movement for something? For publically eschewing violence, perhaps? For not supporting someone who had already killed for "the cause," like Eric Rudolph? Or not being "committed" enough (whatever that might mean in his criminal mind)?

Then again, could he be deranged and actually believe that by murdering Tiller he was "firing the first shot" in some "Turner Diaries"-esque pro-life civil war scenario? I guess we will find out at the trial.

36 posted on 06/01/2009 9:41:02 AM PDT by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
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To: xzins
Therefore, I’m assuming that’s what Roeder intended to accomplish. He intended to hurt the pro-life movement.

Yep.

Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.

Oh, dear...


37 posted on 06/01/2009 10:31:42 AM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: rdb3
The Left has killed its own before...in order to play the victim.


38 posted on 06/01/2009 10:35:09 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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