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California Breakup?
BREAKING VIEWS ^ | 21 MAY 2009 | MARTIN HUTCHINSON

Posted on 05/23/2009 1:08:48 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: california; statehood; stateofjefferson; statesrights
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To: rabscuttle385

My only question is how would such a plan be feasible given CA’s oblong shape? If the state was as square as Wyoming then it would be a no-brainer.


41 posted on 05/23/2009 4:42:04 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: TaxPayer2000

He said 58 states.


42 posted on 05/23/2009 5:20:57 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Breaking the State up into 5 parts would be better then having DC bailout the state by devaluing the US dollar (printing more money and handing it to Kali). We should have broke up the Auto companies and the Big Financials. Might actually have some healthy smaller companies now instead of a massive impossible to pay debt load and future clown cars. At any rate, we all now have trillions of DC debt hanging over our heads. What the DC elites have failed to realize is that leaving the US is now a more fiscally solvent solution to DC’s debt load. Can you imagine if San Diego and the Inland Empire became a new nation. No debt baby.


43 posted on 05/23/2009 5:30:34 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

In order for this to occur (still would be a long shot), the partisan breakdown among the new Senators would have to cancel out. Otherwise, the party with the lesser number would flip out.


44 posted on 05/23/2009 5:31:01 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Yossarian; NormsRevenge; calcowgirl; ExTexasRedhead; doug from upland; SierraWasp; ElkGroveDan; ...

Here’s another solution that’s getting more attention.


45 posted on 05/23/2009 5:39:28 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The McCain/Palin ticket was like a Kangaroo, stronger on the bottom than at the top)
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To: Clintonfatigued

What’s the other solution? Should your comment have included a link?


46 posted on 05/23/2009 5:41:30 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Many solutions are being proposed for the state’s huge budget crisis. And they’re easy to find, provided you have a search engine.


47 posted on 05/23/2009 5:42:36 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The McCain/Palin ticket was like a Kangaroo, stronger on the bottom than at the top)
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To: Repeal 16-17
Otherwise, the party with the lesser number would flip out.

Thus the inherent failure of a 2 party corrupt system.

48 posted on 05/23/2009 5:43:30 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: svcw

I was in Ca. last Tuesday with a co-worker who lives there.
She had no idea that Tuesday was a voting day for the tax referendums and here this Tx guy (me) was very aware of props 1-A-F. Duh.....


49 posted on 05/23/2009 5:43:37 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: murron
He said 58 states.

Oh yeah, 57, with one more left to go.....

50 posted on 05/23/2009 6:04:53 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Thanks for the headsup.


51 posted on 05/23/2009 6:05:21 PM PDT by Liz (Everything Obama says comes with an expiration date.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
And they’re easy to find, provided you have a search engine.

One thing I hate about the Internet: Too many people give a sarcastic answer when asked a simple question.

52 posted on 05/23/2009 6:19:06 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: hometoroost

California should be cut in half—North California and South California. Divide the state at Santa Maria. In truth the two states are not alike. South CA is more laid back—the north is too stuck up. Hey, we in South CA do not mind if you call Los Angeles LA. But just try to call San Francisco—Frisco up north. Let Arnold rule in the north. We can elect anyone who would be better to be governor of South California. How about Ben Stein? he knows his numbers and he knows the film business.


53 posted on 05/23/2009 6:49:07 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
This idea raised its head the last time California went into a severe recession and exerienced constraints on its public spending.

But there is also a values component to it, with residents of conservative areas sick of having SanFran values shoved down its throat.

54 posted on 05/23/2009 11:01:46 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: svcw
I was born and raised in CA. My whole life there has been talk of dividing the state. Used to be three parts now it four. I don’t care as long as SF, Oakland and Marin counties are their own state, they deserve each other,

I'm with you, as long as the state I end up in doesn't contain those cities or Sacramento(it is going pretty leftward lately)I will be fine.

55 posted on 05/23/2009 11:06:20 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
California should be cut in half—North California and South California. Divide the state at Santa Maria. In truth the two states are not alike. South CA is more laid back—the north is too stuck up.

Hey, we in South CA do not mind if you call Los Angeles LA. But just try to call San Francisco—Frisco up north.

Let Arnold rule in the north. We can elect anyone who would be better to be governor of South California. How about Ben Stein? he knows his numbers and he knows the film business.

You have plainly never been in Northern CA if you think SF is part of it. The North doesn't claim most of the coast, what we call northern California is on the eastern slope of the Sierras, and doesn't include Sac.

You want someone to have Arnold, you guys can have him, the south has the biggest voting block and the most liberals, not to mention a sh** load of illegals, and you steal our frickin' water too. The only place that has more liberals than the LA area is the left coast, SF, Marin County, Oakland. Sac is loaded with them also. You have a very strange attitude about the south considering the only conservative county you have is Orange Co.

The only county on the Coast that is conservative is Del Norte and it is so far north it is almost part of Oregon!

56 posted on 05/23/2009 11:12:12 PM PDT by calex59
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To: svcw; rabscuttle385; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued

I think it would be more like 6D-2R or 5D-3R. Clearly the SF Bay-based state would be 2D, but L.A.-based would be 2D as well (probably 2 La Raza Moonbats), San Diego-based would be marginal (probably one of each, a liberal rodent and probably a RINO), and Inland Empire/Central Valley would probably have 2 Republicans, but from the flood of liberals leaving L.A. and the SF Bay area, within 20 years, perhaps less, it could be outnumbered, and hence all 8 could be Democrats.


57 posted on 05/24/2009 7:46:05 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican

If we split the state in two rather than four, ie, create Northern California and Southern California, would the Senate breakdown be 2D-2R?


58 posted on 05/24/2009 11:27:02 AM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

Nope. It’d be 4D. Instead, you’d have the 2Ds unchanged from SF for the North and 2 liberal rodent Los Angelenos for Southern CA.


59 posted on 05/24/2009 11:31:35 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: calex59
When California was admitted to the Union, they should have made the southern boundary 36 degrees 30 minutes (or perhaps a line further south). I'm not sure why they didn't--maybe to avoid giving a chance for the pro-slavery people to try to claim the southern area for slavery, or because they thought the southern area would never have enough people to be a viable state.

I remember a proposal to make California into 3 states (about 20 years ago) which never made it to the ballot.

If California was divided into 4 states, that would mean a 53-star flag. I don't know if it would be easy to design a flag with 53 stars in a pattern that would look nice. Maybe divide NYC (along with Westchester Co. and Long Island) from the rest of New York State and make it a 54-star flag.

60 posted on 05/25/2009 12:03:10 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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