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Political Civil War Rages in Both Parties
The Provocateur ^ | 05/16/2009 | Mike Volpe

Posted on 05/16/2009 7:58:08 PM PDT by fiscon1

Here's a thought. Let's look at this question strictly from political calculus. Do you think Republicans would rather that Speaker Pelosi be removed or keep her job, weakened and with little or no credibility left. I personally would pick the latter, at least as far as political advantage goes. That is at the heart of the political civil war going on the Democratic party. About three weeks ago, I wrote about the political civil war going on in both parties.

At the heart of the political civil in the Democratic party is the issue of what to do about potential prosecution of former Bush officials over so called torture techniques like waterboarding. From the beginning, the party didn't know what to do. It's most partisan faction wanted show trials through the "truth commission". The most moderate factions wanted to simply move on, while the president still hasn't figured out what he wanted.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: democrats; nancypelosi; partisans; republicans; rinowars; specter; torture; truthcommission; waterboarding; witchhunt; wot

1 posted on 05/16/2009 7:58:08 PM PDT by fiscon1
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To: fiscon1
A weakened Pelosi is a temporary situation, at best. And forgiving or at least excusing her current behavior only invites more of the same from her in the future and worse from those that will come later.

Nip it, I say.
Nip - It - In - The - Bud!
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2 posted on 05/16/2009 8:01:11 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (The sun glinted off chiseled pectorals sculpted during four weight-lifting sessions each week and...)
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To: fiscon1
If it weren't for the risk of ending up with Obama and Biden taken out in an Islamofascist terrorist attack leaving her in place as President, I'd say our political advantage is to keep her in place.

Since there's a real risk of Obama and Biden being taken out instantaneously while attempting to defuse one of 15 Iranian bombs accidentally delivered to the White House, I don't think we should chance it.

Best to get rid of her.

3 posted on 05/16/2009 8:03:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: fiscon1
If it weren't for the risk of ending up with Obama and Biden taken out in an Islamofascist terrorist attack leaving her in place as President, I'd say our political advantage is to keep her in place.

Since there's a real risk of Obama and Biden being taken out instantaneously while attempting to defuse one of 15 Iranian bombs accidentally delivered to the White House, I don't think we should chance it.

Best to get rid of her.

4 posted on 05/16/2009 8:03:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tanniker Smith

If she stays in, it is just one more Democrat with one more scandal - i.e., normal. It becomes a non-issue when the attention span fades.
This may be the only chance to kick Pelosi out.


5 posted on 05/16/2009 8:03:53 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: Tanniker Smith

I don’t think that this is temporary. She has lost all credibility and that isn’t something that comes back. As for her behavior, well, it isn’t up to us whether or not she is punished.


6 posted on 05/16/2009 8:07:07 PM PDT by fiscon1
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To: tbw2

not one more Dem but the Speaker of the House, third in line to the Presidency. It isn’t one more scandal but a scandal in which she has accused the CIA of lying. This isn’t going away and it isn’t some small deal.


7 posted on 05/16/2009 8:11:16 PM PDT by fiscon1
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To: fiscon1

She stays and its a long term gain for republicans in 2010.Come on you guys,you just know she is really starting to crack up.This would be fun to watch so I say lets keep her.


8 posted on 05/16/2009 8:12:25 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: fiscon1

Civil war? Hell, I’m just revoking the sanction as it were. A lefty wants to run as a Republican? Fine, but I’m not going to vote for him. Why should I? So he can laugh at another conservative rube who has nowhere else to go? I think not. If we’re to suffer Democrat policies we might as well suffer them at the hands of Democrats. Then the electorate will at least know who did it to them.


9 posted on 05/16/2009 8:23:19 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Trod Upon

Unless you live in Fl. you can’t vote for him. The article was more pointing out that some have decided to punish the NRSC for supporting this “lefty”.


10 posted on 05/16/2009 8:27:00 PM PDT by fiscon1
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To: imahawk

I will have to agree. We get rid of her now, we will have Hoyer as an adversary, and he’s no push over. It’s better to use this walking Botox commercial as perfect example of govt failure in next year’s elections.


11 posted on 05/16/2009 8:30:37 PM PDT by max americana
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To: fiscon1
It's a tough question to answer and I think Rush is right on part of it. Other Speakers were forced to resign over issues less severe than this one. Does she break the glass ceiling and get treated like a man or not? If she's not forced to resign, it sets a most dangerous precedent.

Definitely having her 3rd in line of succession makes me uncomfortable.

The guy who would take over from her worries me even more - he's an Obama-ite.

Better not to have voted any of these clowns into office in the first place, but it's a bit late for that.

12 posted on 05/16/2009 8:40:56 PM PDT by altair (None of the above, please)
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To: Tanniker Smith
Nip - It - In - The - Bud!

Agreed, not sweeping out the trash because there's "political" gain isn't the way business should be done ... on either side of the aisle.

Pelosi needs to pay the piper.

13 posted on 05/16/2009 8:42:56 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Clinton was our first black President ... Obama is our first French President.)
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To: fiscon1
That is at the heart of the political civil war going on in the Democratic party.

There is no such thing as the "democratic" party. It's a misnomer. I never call them that. To me they're just democrats, socialist/communist weasels.

14 posted on 05/16/2009 9:10:46 PM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: fiscon1

I say get her out as soon as possible. One less dem to deal with, then we can hope the others trip themselves up like she did!


15 posted on 05/16/2009 10:03:55 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: max americana
Hoyer is definitely a "push over". He used to represent Prince Georges County MD in Congress. One day the black guys counted heads and found out they ran PG county.

The powers that be went to Stenny and told him "Hey, brother, we are going to run a black man to represent PG county and we'll beat you in the primary if we need to".

Now Stenny is not totally stupid ~ pretty thuggish, but not totally stupid ~ so he said "Give me a minute and I'll move and then the Democrats there will elect me", so he moved and the Democrats in a new district elected him.

A real man would have stood up against the black guys in PG county, but he didn't.

Stenney does not stand up to threats very well.

16 posted on 05/17/2009 7:34:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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