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To: Devils Avocado; LucyT; null and void; Polarik
You present a very good argument for the deception that Obama may be attempting allowing this little matter of his eligibility to continue, providing time for him to pass legislation truly damaging to society and the country, and our political system. It's true that some are looking at his right hand moving (or more accurately, his lips moving) and missing what he does with his left; that implies conspiracy....on the part of Obama and his handlers.

There wasn't a conspiracy in Honolulu in 1961 to produce a CoLB for young Barry so he could be president. His maternal grandmother faced facts when her wayward daughter came home with a child in tow and used the existing laws and her own management and manipulation abilities to secure an identity and citizenship for the kid. (I have no knowledge that can prove or disprove Obama's place of birth and neither does he. It could be anywhere since his grandmother secured for him a 'Straggler's birth certificate).

The Birth Certificate issue has nothing to do with conspiracy. However, the CoLB published was phony. His autobiographies were fiction and his education, travel, Selective Service number, changes in citizenship missing or undisclosed. These are the minutia in this politician's resume that suggest fraud.

What Obama faces if discovery is allowed in any of the court cases challenging his eligibility (discovery prior to any indictment or trial....look it up) is criminal fraud, mail fraud, FEC violations and probably a list of RICO violations longer than your arm.

I think it ridiculous that Obama's legal defense argues before the courts that Discovery would be 'embarassing'. Think that over.
78 posted on 05/12/2009 9:37:03 PM PDT by BIGLOOK
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To: BIGLOOK; Beckwith; null and void; stockpirate; pissant; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ..
There wasn't a conspiracy in Honolulu in 1961 to produce a CoLB for young Barry so he could be president...The Birth Certificate issue has nothing to do with conspiracy.

As presented, I agree with you. However, there absolutely was a conspiracy to lie, distort, and deceive the public about the validity the COLB posted online (a year ago June 12), AS WELL AS to crush all criticisms and honest discussions about it through public humiliation, slander, and bogus "analyses," perpetuated by media outlets, self-proclaimed "fact checking" sites, Obama supporters and apologists, disinenguous graphics "experts," and everybody else who wanted to take shots at me because I had the audacity to provide evidence to the contrary, and to withstand all that they could hurl my way.

The BIGGEST lie of all is that the liberal Left has no equal when it comes to conspiracy theories. The shear number and diversity of bizzare conspiracy theories spouted by the Left about 9/11 is unprecedented in history. They began the Truth Movement. They called the account of Al Qaeda, Bin Laden, and the 19 hijackers the Bush Administration's conspiracy. and every possible alternative was accepted as gospel.

The irony about all of the crap that they gave Phil Berg for bringing the first lawsuit against Obama, calling him a "Truther," is that nowhere in the entire history of the Truth Movement and its many copycats is Berg, a Democrat, ever mentioned!

I have to say, in all candor, that if forging a COLB was the worst thing that Obama has ever done, and ever will do, our country would be far better off than everything else he has done in less than four months in office.

The fradulent COLB has become iconic of a fradulent man, a fraudulent family, a fraudulent biography, a fraudulent Administration, a fraudulent election, and millions of fraudulent supporters.

The fraudulent COLB was neither the beginning nor the end of ZERO's web of deception. It should be, however, a reminder to everyone that the cover-up of an illegal act can be more egregious than the act itself.

89 posted on 05/13/2009 11:36:26 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever)
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