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PRIVACY: HOW TO COMMUNICATE?
self ^ | 5/10/09 | A Navy Vet

Posted on 05/10/2009 5:43:05 PM PDT by A Navy Vet

With the ever encroaching Fedgov looking in and trying to control our personal lives, I'm looking for way that Americans can still communicate privately.

I understand that any answers given on this public forum, may alert the various gov agencies to a new work-around. I'm hoping someone can provide a fool proof answer even on this public board.

Internet e-mail and forums are easily compromised (ISP's easliy traceable); phone conversations, well, we all know about taps; Ham radio can be intercepted; CB radio the same. And no, face to face comms and devised codes are not the answer I'm looking for - too cumbersome and too slow. Same as snail-mail.

Although there are a few encrypted Internet programs out there such as PGP phone, that particular one is buggy depending on your computer setup (power, memory, firewalls, anti-virus, etc.).

Is anyone aware of any other encrypted Internet programs that the average person doesn't need an expensive doomsday program and a $10,000 server that will simply facilitate privacy? If not Internet, how can anyone possibly have a private conversation? What am I missing...???


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Education; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: communication; privacy
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1 posted on 05/10/2009 5:43:05 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet; Neil E. Wright; Jim Robinson

FYI


2 posted on 05/10/2009 5:43:48 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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To: A Navy Vet

How about sitting down and writing them a snail mail letter?


3 posted on 05/10/2009 5:47:33 PM PDT by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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"How about sitting down and writing them a snail mail letter?"

As I mentioned above, "snail mail" is too slow. But thanks for you input.

4 posted on 05/10/2009 5:49:01 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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To: A Navy Vet

PGP isn’t all that buggy but it does have a back door, as will most other publicly available encryption tools. Any cipher can be broken given enough computer time.

Likewise you could very well be a plant looking to make a list of who is interested in this stuff.


5 posted on 05/10/2009 5:51:51 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: A Navy Vet

If you can generate a truly random key - and get a copy to your partner, it is not decodable. It would have to be long enough to not repeat for a good while - easy if you’re just using text. Your text is simply exclusive Or’d with the key. The reverse is done on the other side. The only plaintext is the location where the key is to start for each message.

You could generate a random key via sampling the output of a “noise circuit”. Nope, not digital noise (pseudo random sequences) - those can be undone quite easily.

Others have had this thought. We’re going to need it in the upcoming fight with the Obamaloons.


6 posted on 05/10/2009 5:52:13 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: A Navy Vet

I’ve used proxy servers before and encryption tools for my pc, but in the end, I have changed my Ip address on a couple of occasions which is not difficult. (No, I don’t do it on FR but when Dling “stuff”):)


7 posted on 05/10/2009 5:54:25 PM PDT by max americana
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To: A Navy Vet

8 posted on 05/10/2009 5:54:43 PM PDT by neal1960 (This space for rent.)
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To: A Navy Vet
As I mentioned above, "snail mail" is too slow.

Why would snail mail be too slow? Flesh out the scenario some...

9 posted on 05/10/2009 5:54:58 PM PDT by GOPJ (If Nixon had been a Democrat, Woodward and Bernstein would have been Linda Tripp.)
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10 posted on 05/10/2009 5:56:05 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Sprechen sie Austrian? Happy Quatro de taco!)
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any program such as “hide it” or “stash it.” they scramble text messages within an image. probably easy to decrypt if “they” know where to look though. ;)


11 posted on 05/10/2009 5:56:21 PM PDT by robomatik
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“If you can generate a truly random key - and get a copy to your partner, it is not decodable.”

Yes it is, all it takes is computer time. Generally its a matter of cost. Is it cheaper to get the info another way or tie up the computer for however long. With todays faster computers the bar is a LOT lower.

Even the industry standard encryption algorithm 3DES is hackable.

Most of all the OS of any PC on either end is probably compromised by the NSA.


12 posted on 05/10/2009 5:59:10 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: A Navy Vet

I would call a local reporter. If the news was important enough, a story would run the next day.


13 posted on 05/10/2009 6:00:06 PM PDT by GOPJ (If Nixon had been a Democrat, Woodward and Bernstein would have been Linda Tripp.)
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To: A Navy Vet

14 posted on 05/10/2009 6:00:32 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: A Navy Vet

Basically anything on a PC (Windows, MAC, Linux) is not 100% secure.


15 posted on 05/10/2009 6:02:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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The trick is to make your message so unimportant that no one wants to know what you’re saying. There is no technology known that can capture every phone message to every number.


16 posted on 05/10/2009 6:03:23 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: A Navy Vet

17 posted on 05/10/2009 6:05:49 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Sprechen sie Austrian? Happy Quatro de taco!)
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To: count-your-change

The trick is to make your message so unimportant that no one wants to know what you’re saying.

I’m THERE baby!


18 posted on 05/10/2009 6:05:56 PM PDT by DeLaine (Navy blue)
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To: A Navy Vet
carrier pigeon?
19 posted on 05/10/2009 6:07:10 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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“There is no technology known that can capture every phone message to every number.”

Don’t need to capture ‘every’ message. They just need to engage trigger words to flag certain calls.

They can also monitor who posts to sites like this and just track their phones.


20 posted on 05/10/2009 6:07:25 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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